Make mininukes actually powerful enough to blow a small house like they promise

Murphy · 2014-06-07T07:44:24.000Z

I was soooo disappointed when I found out the explosion was only 15x15.
Since tiles are 24x24, it’s kinda a stretch… I expected the blast radius to be at least twice of what it is.

Don’t wanna sound like Tim Taylor, but I definitely want a bigger nuke avaliable, even if it takes more plutonium to craft them.

kevin.granade · 2014-06-07T23:08:47.000Z

Yea, mininukes are pretty weak. Will get on that soon-ish.

FunsizeNinja123 · 2014-06-07T23:24:34.000Z

Kevin Granade:

Yea, mininukes are pretty weak. Will get on that soon-ish.

Yay, just looted a lab full of them earlier.

system · 2014-06-08T00:36:27.000Z

One firecracker isn’t deadly, but use enough of them.

The same applies to mininukes.

Rivet · 2014-06-08T00:48:08.000Z

If we boost the size of the explosion we’ll need to boost the range on the PIAT-style mortar-thing that the player can use to launch them. As it stands it fires them about two or three tiles farther than the blast reaches.

RAM · 2014-06-08T02:16:14.000Z

Or just wear more armour…

Womble · 2014-06-09T01:46:21.000Z

Rivet:

If we boost the size of the explosion we’ll need to boost the range on the PIAT-style mortar-thing that the player can use to launch them.

It’s more dystopian if you don’t.

Rivet · 2014-06-09T01:53:43.000Z

Bang.

Murphy · 2014-06-09T02:37:26.000Z

Yay!

EditorRUS · 2014-06-09T13:13:16.000Z

You can’t use mininukes to destroy a house, but you can do that by means of a metal tank full of gasoline!

i2amroy · 2014-06-09T19:30:54.000Z

I’m guessing the main reason was because originally there was no timer you could set, so it was made so that the player could just barely escape the radius if they threw it and started running.

Slax · 2014-06-09T19:39:19.000Z

2-stage the suckers. First an explosion, then a large shockwave.

VampyreLord · 2014-06-09T20:32:16.000Z

Simply because mini-nukes are not nukes. If you look at the Fallout 3 weapon “Fat-Man” the blast is not that huge.

EditorRUS · 2014-06-11T00:06:14.000Z

Well, taking in mind how crude mininuke is created (you will get nothing, but radioactive crap thrown everywhere if you just explode a grenade in a bottle full of plutonium ) they are pretty balanced in this case. True mininuke should be rare and almost impossible to create (tons of plutonium, few C4’s, reinforced shell at least).

RAM · 2014-06-11T18:47:19.000Z

I could be wrong, maybe there are ways to concentrate the reaction or materials with a lower threshold or something, but I suspect that there may be a minimum potency for a true nuke. Although, saying that, a nuke at ground-level has less spread as most of the blast is deflected upwards…

system · 2014-06-12T03:25:54.000Z

That’s why nukes have those rods out the front, so it detonates off the ground and doesn’t lose the power into the ground.

kevin.granade · 2014-06-12T04:47:04.000Z

gtaguy:

That’s why nukes have those rods out the front, so it detonates off the ground and doesn’t lose the power into the ground.

What the hell? No, they never reach the ground, any rods sticking out the front are probably pitot tubes, used for measuring airspeed.
They generally use radar altimeters to detonate a fixed distance above the ground based on device yield, the airspeed sensor is a safety device to only arm them once they’re in freefall.

Funk · 2014-06-17T21:46:08.000Z

Rivet:

If we boost the size of the explosion we’ll need to boost the range on the PIAT-style mortar-thing that the player can use to launch them. As it stands it fires them about two or three tiles farther than the blast reaches.

Mininukes are based on the old Davy Crockett weapons and they had a really short range only a few miles in RL
and Mininukes luncher look like this

KA101 · 2014-06-17T22:27:03.000Z

Funk:

[quote=“Rivet, post:5, topic:6420”]If we boost the size of the explosion we’ll need to boost the range on the PIAT-style mortar-thing that the player can use to launch them. As it stands it fires them about two or three tiles farther than the blast reaches.

Mininukes are based on the old Davy Crockett weapons and they had a really short range only a few miles in RL
and Mininukes luncher look like this
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Rivet wrote the mininuke launcher & shells, FWIW. She says it’s PIAT, it probably is.

Rivet · 2014-06-18T00:56:15.000Z

KA101:

Rivet wrote the mininuke launcher & shells, FWIW. She says it’s PIAT, it probably is.

Yeah, the mininuke launcher is a shoulder-fired weapon, not emplaced artillery like the M-29 Davy Crockett - which was a recoilless rifle firing an oversize projectile, not a man-portable spring mortar.

If anything, it would probably look more like this:

Though to be fair, the PIAT used an additional propellant charge to launch its projectile that our mininuke launcher lacks. Adding one could give it a longer range, but it would mean both the launcher and the ammunition would have to be even bigger and heavier, and they’re already pretty massive.