What's Happening in YOUR Randomly-generated Apocalypse?

Azrad · 2017-07-26T18:02:54.000Z

Speed. One steel frame takes 8 minutes to disassemble. You can instantly recycle multiple steel frames in the compactor. Furthermore, you get more lumps of steel. 'course, i

That said, really wish that the tile for the simple steel floor/roof looks different. Right now, it looks like a dirt tile, making it almost impossible to tell whether it’s dirt or floor.

Gonna need a ton of lumps; 1 steel plating is 8 lumps of steel, so that’s 7,774 lumps of steel. That’s just for the library section, and just one building. Probably faster than normal roofs, as it seems the amount of two by fours you can get out of a tree trunk has been nerfed. Like, usually one tree trunk before used to give around half the carrying capacity of a cargo carrier, somewhere around 80 two by fours. Now, one trunk is like 20 or 30.

deoxy · 2017-07-26T20:21:59.000Z

Azrad:

Speed. One steel frame takes 8 minutes to disassemble. You can instantly recycle multiple steel frames in the compactor. Furthermore, you get more lumps of steel. 'course, i

How many does it give? Is it by volume, then? Because I see a very easy exploit for infinite lumps…

Other items that take a lot more volume than the metal they give: light frames (turn 4 pipes into 40 volume worth of lumps), sheet metal (turn 4 scrap metal into 4 volume worth of lumps), vehicle fuel tanks!!! That might be a little TOO exploity…

Also, in terms of hauling, it might be worth turning the lumps into hard plates - hard plates take up 1/4 the space of the lumps needed to make them.

DeWolf · 2017-07-26T20:48:58.000Z

deoxy:

[quote=“Azrad, post:13181, topic:47”]Speed. One steel frame takes 8 minutes to disassemble. You can instantly recycle multiple steel frames in the compactor. Furthermore, you get more lumps of steel. 'course, i

How many does it give? Is it by volume, then? Because I see a very easy exploit for infinite lumps…

Other items that take a lot more volume than the metal they give: light frames (turn 4 pipes into 40 volume worth of lumps), sheet metal (turn 4 scrap metal into 4 volume worth of lumps), vehicle fuel tanks!!! That might be a little TOO exploity…

Also, in terms of hauling, it might be worth turning the lumps into hard plates - hard plates take up 1/4 the space of the lumps needed to make them.[/quote]
What version are you using cause I can’t craft sheet metal.

deoxy · 2017-07-26T22:04:55.000Z

DeWolf:

[quote=“deoxy, post:13182, topic:47”][quote=“Azrad, post:13181, topic:47”]Speed. One steel frame takes 8 minutes to disassemble. You can instantly recycle multiple steel frames in the compactor. Furthermore, you get more lumps of steel. 'course, i

How many does it give? Is it by volume, then? Because I see a very easy exploit for infinite lumps…

Other items that take a lot more volume than the metal they give: light frames (turn 4 pipes into 40 volume worth of lumps), sheet metal (turn 4 scrap metal into 4 volume worth of lumps), vehicle fuel tanks!!! That might be a little TOO exploity…

Also, in terms of hauling, it might be worth turning the lumps into hard plates - hard plates take up 1/4 the space of the lumps needed to make them.[/quote]
What version are you using cause I can’t craft sheet metal.[/quote]

Oh right, I forgot they took that out… sorry, old player error. Until a few months ago, you could craft 4 scrap metal into sheet metal.

Azrad · 2017-07-27T03:04:21.000Z

[quote=“deoxy, post:13182, topic:47”]How many does it give? Is it by volume, then? Because I see a very easy exploit for infinite lumps…

Other items that take a lot more volume than the metal they give: light frames (turn 4 pipes into 40 volume worth of lumps), sheet metal (turn 4 scrap metal into 4 volume worth of lumps), vehicle fuel tanks!!! That might be a little TOO exploity…

Also, in terms of hauling, it might be worth turning the lumps into hard plates - hard plates take up 1/4 the space of the lumps needed to make them.[/quote]

By weight. One steel frame, at 44.092, can give around 12-16 lumps of steel, slightly less than what the steel frame has in weight but more than disassembling it.

Steel has to be part of the material’s components. Hard steel (like hard plating) does not work, and frustratingly iron doesn’t work either - like engines.

Also, testing it, filling a steel drum with water to increase weight does not increase the amount of steel you’ll get if you put it through the recycler.

DeWolf:

What version are you using cause I can’t craft sheet metal.

Incidentally, you can make sheet metal on the recycler as well.

Walegrin · 2017-07-27T04:29:32.000Z

Found a good solar car to use is scouting/looting. Now to fully exploit my surrounding area!

I’m also debating building a boat to explore the river that my home base is on.

Azrad · 2017-07-27T05:30:31.000Z

Planning on making multiple vehicles. Current one is fine, but that’s more for long trips out of the base. Hard to navigate around some things due to the size of the thing.

A medium to small vehicle would be nice. For quick trips. Basically if I want to hit up a city or two.

A motorcycle like vehicle would be good as well, for speed, if I want to visit the refugee center and outpost to trade or assign NPC followers to do work, should I ever decide to do that.

And a farming vehicle. All I need to find now are plows; got enough vehicle scoops, seed drills, and reapers.

After that, I’d like to experiment on other vehicle designs. Since I’m making a survivor town and all, it would seem lacking if there wasn’t a small fleet of cars.

That’ll be the second in my goals. Third one will probably be memorizing all the recipes in the game, since you can’t memorize them anymore from just reading.

Azrad · 2017-07-27T14:26:49.000Z

Figuring out what my survivor will wear, now that she no longer needs the survivor wetsuit.

For most part, I want to keep survivor gear to a minimum. And I want her to look kinda respectable on the ChestHole tileset. Leather touring suit seems nice, as does nomad gear.

Main issue are wet effects. She needs to keep herself protected from morale debuffs from the rain, and the survivor wetsuit used to do that job. So far, the only things that help negate the morale penalties are the leather and survivor trenchcoat and duster. Duster isn’t really needed, since it seems the only thing that needs to be protected during the rain is the arms, torso, and head.

Technically the rain coat will keep her dry, but yellow doesn’t suit her.

Azrad · 2017-07-27T16:46:52.000Z

Just something amusing I wanted to test out, so I debugged it. Broken cyborgs are made of steel, and thus they can be put into the metal recycler, and for a large amount of steel as well. On the other hand, armored zombies are made of flesh and can’t be put into the recycler.

Azrad · 2017-07-27T16:58:32.000Z

Muhahaha! I have found a quick solution to get tons of steel in a jiffy.

So, a little ways north of the empty necropolis town/pump station with the metal recycler, is a small town. It has a subway, with a vending machine.

First step: remove marshal badge.

Second step: punch vending machine.

Third step: pose for the eyebot’s camera.

Fourth step: just wait and punch out the police and riot bots until satisfied.

Each bot weighs around 300 lbs, so five or six of them is around the weight of a roller drum/600 lumps of steel. Easy peasy.

Somewhat feels like an exploit, but eh. Semi-legit at least, since I still have to make an effort, especially when it’s time to craft the steel platings.

Rot · 2017-07-27T17:12:36.000Z

Ayy, that’s hilarous.

Azrad · 2017-07-27T19:27:34.000Z

I am saddened that unlike scabbards or watches, you can’t switch the side of monocles. Because, double monocles will be so, so, so fancy. Instead, one monocle is on top of the other.

DeWolf · 2017-07-27T19:34:09.000Z

[quote=“Azrad, post:13190, topic:47”]Muhahaha! I have found a quick solution to get tons of steel in a jiffy.

So, a little ways north of the empty necropolis town/pump station with the metal recycler, is a small town. It has a subway, with a vending machine.

First step: remove marshal badge.

Second step: punch vending machine.

Third step: pose for the eyebot’s camera.

Fourth step: just wait and punch out the police and riot bots until satisfied.

Each bot weighs around 300 lbs, so five or six of them is around the weight of a roller drum/600 lumps of steel. Easy peasy.

Somewhat feels like an exploit, but eh. Semi-legit at least, since I still have to make an effort, especially when it’s time to craft the steel platings.[/quote]
So actually which badges basically make non military robots non hostile?

Azrad · 2017-07-27T19:41:24.000Z

You need to have the appropriate trait for the job, I recall. Just having a badge isn’t enough. Either start with the police profession, or become a marshal from doing the old guard missions on the refugee center.

Azrad · 2017-07-28T04:32:13.000Z

Hmmm. Powdered eggs could act as a natural multi-vitamin of sorts. One portion has 20% of four out of five of the nutritional values, so five noms will do the trick (I guess), then all you need is some fruit for vitamin C.

'course, it’s not enjoyable and will make a survivor thirsty, but no one said that toughing it out in the wilderness is gonna be easy.

edit: tested it. Unfortunately, you can’t eat powdered eggs in its powdered form. Need to cook it into scrambled eggs.

DeWolf · 2017-07-28T14:45:25.000Z

Or some other egg based product.

Azrad · 2017-07-28T15:30:51.000Z

Bot hunting done. After putting nearly 200 police bots and nearly 200 riot bots on the recycler, got 39,200 lumps of steel. Also had a few car parts gathered, and five road roller drums, before deciding to go bot hunting, bringing the total up to 43,225 lumps.

More than enough to provide the roof for three or four buildings.

It breaks the symmetry, but once I run out of rocks for wall building I’m gonna be using steel plating as well for wall making. I reckon it’d be less of a hassle to gather one part for the construction material instead of gathering two.

DeWolf · 2017-07-28T15:51:08.000Z

I imagine you cannot move recyclers.

Azrad · 2017-07-28T15:59:30.000Z

Yeah, but there’s an emptied necropolis near my base; just a quick drive from the base or the spot where I can bot hunt.

It’ll be quick and easy. Like if I stick to rocks when I run out:

-Go to the nearby area I dug underground to jackhammer rocks, jackhammering one solid rock tile takes some time, and you get at most 9 rocks or so per tile. You need a ton of rocks for walls, like a thousand or two.

-Then you gotta haul those rocks up, and your survivor can only carry so much, so doing so requires multiple trips up, and then into the car.

-Then for the roof I still have to either get two by fours and nails, or steel platings.

If I go all steel plating, all I need to do is bot hunt when I run out, craft them into steel platings, and voila.

deoxy · 2017-07-28T21:38:38.000Z

Found a helmet that gives super-clairvoyance in return for radiation (and smoke, and I think hunger, but I don’t mind those). It’s large enough to be annoying to carry around, but for labs… wow, go down the stairs, put it on, BAM, most of the floor is visible, then take it back off… lather, rinse, repeat. Makes lab clearing SO easy. Kinda nice… kinda too nice.