Has played Cata since 0.5
Never had a gun jam on him
^ And I can confirm that. I think that in all the time I have played (you know those old times when you still had to compile the game yourself) I think I had only had a nail gun jam on me once or twice at most.
The chance for a firearm to jam is quite low, even for low-durability weapons. Iâm not surprised that some of you have never encountered it in-game.
But few would like it if we made it happen more often, either.
instead of durability(most guns can have thousands of rounds put through them before they break) how about a cleaning system instead? if you donât clean your weapon often enough they become gummed up, with loss of accuracy, stopping power, and increased likelihood to jam or otherwise malfunction. some guns can operate when dirty better than others, take the AK47 vs. M16 for example.
items that can be used to clean your guns would include rags, oil or gasoline, and a cleaning rod which could be crafted from a pipe or scrap metal.
as for magazines(vs. clips, get your lingo right!) i definitely approve of adding realism to reloading. for balance though, each firearm you find should come loaded with at least one magazine(even if itâs empty), because we donât want to have the problem with not being able to find mags for our guns. it would also be more realistic this way, because every gun you find in a gun store or military bunker will have an empty mag in the well, and guns you find lying out in the open will still have a mag in them because the last thought on itâs previous ownerâs mind wouldâve been to remove the magazine after his last mag ran dry.
Lol Hunter weâve all been saying mags. Anyway, how will we know that thereâs a mag in it?
A simple solution for my question (I think) would be to have the gun say (0) at the end if it has a mag.
So like: Glock 19 (0) for one with a mag (But empty) and âGlock 19â For one without a mag.
Iâm liking this idea, actually.
Given how slow the reloading is (and how it gets interrupted by enemy attack), I assume that in game at the moment, standard reloading means removing your magazine and loading individual bullets into it then putting it back in.
There is already an option for reloading from a spare fully loaded magazine. Itâs the âextra magâ gun attachment.
Although it would definitely make more sense if you could reload several magazines in a row in the same way.
Iâm liking this idea, actually.[/quote]not everyone.
[quote=âFunsizeNinja123, post:125, topic:4531â]Anyway, how will we know that thereâs a mag in it?
A simple solution for my question (I think) would be to have the gun say (0) at the end if it has a mag.
So like: Glock 19 (0) for one with a mag (But empty) and âGlock 19â For one without a mag.[/quote] sounds good to me!
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one quick fix that come to mind would be to reduce the frequency of criticals, thus making the ammo/gun types more relevant. Something along the line - 0 skill = 5% crit and increasing 5%/skill ? Also making some monster more dmg resistant, depending on their total mass (i would face a dog with a gun, but iâm not sure about a bear or a hulk, or a fking DDA Moose), or making them harder/easier to hit depending on their size/speed.
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truly a relevant reply 
Criticals are actually not a big problem right now, but headshots are making pistols ridiculously overpowered.
i always assumed headshots are criticals for guns. I may be wrong though. If so, make headshots criticals AND reduce them
But to be fair, in real life, if the enemy isnât wearing body armour, a pistol is generally as effective as a rifle shot. If not more so, since a lot of military rifle rounds are designed to pierce armour and actually make a small hole in flesh.
A headshot is always going to work well no matter what you shot them with.
So I donât think pistols are overpowered⌠Unless theyâre too accurate at longer ranges, but I donât recall that being the case in any version Iâve played.
[quote=âBonevomit, post:129, topic:4531â][center]Youâll get my guns when you pry them from my cold dead hands![/center]
[center][/center][/quote]they better bring some leather gloves, because the barrelâs gonna be a little hot 
really ? 
Hm, that is a lot of pain itâs handing out.
But then again, I canât imagine much more effective vs a zombie than a .45 round to the head.
So it seems fair enough really.
[quote=âDG123, post:127, topic:4531â]Given how slow the reloading is (and how it gets interrupted by enemy attack), I assume that in game at the moment, standard reloading means removing your magazine and loading individual bullets into it then putting it back in.
There is already an option for reloading from a spare fully loaded magazine. Itâs the âextra magâ gun attachment.
Although it would definitely make more sense if you could reload several magazines in a row in the same way.[/quote]
The reload times in the game are meant to represent replacing with a different magazine. Itâs slow to represent unfamiliarity, because you reload much faster with more skill. Itâs slow because reloading in <1 turns would make the reloading mechanic mostly pointless. Itâs slow because one turn is generally not six seconds for short actions, unless you think it also takes 5-6 seconds to move one meter and 30 seconds for a grenade to go off.
[quote=âted, post:137, topic:4531â][quote=âDG123, post:127, topic:4531â]Given how slow the reloading is (and how it gets interrupted by enemy attack), I assume that in game at the moment, standard reloading means removing your magazine and loading individual bullets into it then putting it back in.
There is already an option for reloading from a spare fully loaded magazine. Itâs the âextra magâ gun attachment.
Although it would definitely make more sense if you could reload several magazines in a row in the same way.[/quote]
The reload times in the game are meant to represent replacing with a different magazine. Itâs slow to represent unfamiliarity, because you reload much faster with more skill. Itâs slow because reloading in <1 turns would make the reloading mechanic mostly pointless. Itâs slow because one turn is generally not six seconds for short actions, unless you think it also takes 5-6 seconds to move one meter and 30 seconds for a grenade to go off.[/quote]
The reload times in the game are supposed to (as I understand it) indicate the time it takes (in the case of a mag-fed weapon) to eject the mag, and load loose rounds into the mag, then load it again.
Thatâs my interpretation of it too. It makes very little sense if you get prevented from simply replacing your magazine with a loaded magazine by being hit.
And with the âextra magâ attachment, you DONâT get prevented from reloading when you get hit.
So my conclusion is that standard reloading canât be simply swapping out mags.
Also, I think Iâm right in saying that the extra mag can only be put on certain weapons.
Certain weapons, of course, donât load with magazines.
Thatâs my interpretation of it too. It makes very little sense if you get prevented from simply replacing your magazine with a loaded magazine by being hit.
And with the âextra magâ attachment, you DONâT get prevented from reloading when you get hit.
So my conclusion is that standard reloading canât be simply swapping out mags.
Also, I think Iâm right in saying that the extra mag can only be put on certain weapons.
Certain weapons, of course, donât load with magazines.[/quote]
Getting hit interrupts reloading for gameplay reasons, not realism ones.
The spare mag mod wasnât around when reload times were first designed, and isnât reasonably consistent with other time costs. It was obviously designed with the idea that regular reloading involves refilling a single magazine, because it reduces the reload time by a huge amount. The issue is that the resulting reload times are absurdly fast compared to other actions. An unskilled user can reload using a spare mag twice in the time it takes someone to walk one meter, or ten times in the time it takes for a grenade to go off, and skilled users reload much faster than unskilled ones. Reloading a gun with a spare mag is often faster than firing the weapon once.
Another piece of evidence: unloading a weapon (remove the magazine and put it away) takes half the time of reloading (remove magazine and put it away, take second magazine and put it in).