Addiction Withdrawal effects a bit extreme?

[Badger]

So I took one too many prescription amphetamine and now I have zero intelligence, zero dexterity, and zero perception? Isn’t this just being in a coma? I can’t walk two steps without collapsing. It seems I have both a withdrawal status effect and a depressant effect. The depressant debuff is massive, rendering the actual withdrawal effect irrelevant.

Suggest capping the depressant effect at a much lower number, or just removing the mechanic and instead increasing the ill effects of the base ‘withdrawal’ status. Even hardcore meth/heroin users going cold turkey are more responsive than my character.

[Casio]

Whoa. Yeah, addiction is bad, but you would be using amphetamine as pure fuel for the body systems to shut down like that.

Amphetamine is a upper, so it’s natural for the body to fall hard when it wears off, and withdrawal is just a major fall from having none of it in your system, but jeez. Even people on life support are a bit more… alive.

[Badger]

Yeah. I’ve had amphetamine withdrawal before irl. It sucks massively, but my intelligence did not drop to zero and I didn’t go blind.

[Submarine]

I like it, its the game’s way to tempt you to start using again.

[Trigon]

Is withdrawal causing the depressant effect? Or have you made a horrifying drug cocktail of Prozac and “miscellaneous”?

[Badger]

@Trigon Ha, no, I took the Prozac after I’d already had ‘101 depressant’ count. As anticipated, it was entirely useless. Also yes, the withdrawal is the cause of the depressant effect.

@Submarine I agree that there should be severe penalties, but a bit more nuanced than ‘You now have zero stats’. The withdrawal itself also gives you ‘shakes’ occasionally, and has it’s own inherent penalty, but the debuff from the depressant effect is so ludicrously strong it removes anything interesting from these other effects. Who cares if you have shakes when your body is non functional. This also makes all the withdrawal effects from various drugs exactly the same.

Another note - I found it very amusing that I could maintain ‘happy’ morale all the way through this. The morale penalty is relatively minor. I can’t see, I can’t move, I can’t think, but I’m in a pretty good mood!

[Trigon]

I have heard tale that alcohol and painkiller withdrawals are actually this bad IRL. There’s a story of a dude who kicked his morphing addiction by locking himself in his bathroom for three days and just suffering through withdrawals cold turkey. In reality a severe alcohol withdrawal can kill you. So honestly assuming your emphetamine addiction was fairly severe I imagine the withdrawal would essentially make you fairly useless for a good bit.

Again I’m not familiar with amphetamines so I can’t say anything with 100% certainty.

[proxiehunter]

Ha, no, I took the Prozac after I’d already had ‘101 depressant’ count. As anticipated, it was entirely useless. Also yes, the withdrawal is the cause of the depressant effect.

It’s depressant not depression . Prozac would be expected to do nothing. It’s referring to a depression of the ability of the central nervous system to function, not your characters mood.

[Badger]

As mentioned, I didn’t expect it to work.

[Eastwardrope91]

Withdraw hits people like a freight train full of bricks and going cold turkey can and likely will kill you dependent on the drug. Hell even caffeine withdrawal will put you out of it for awhile (massive heads VERY little energy aches and chills and general anger and annoyance with minor things). With strong more additive drugs like Meth coke and such on you can actually die from it. My dad went through it once for drugs and he didn’t want to do jack. He couldn’t really think let alone think of getting up himself and when he did to go the bathroom he had to be supported the whole way by my step mom. So I honestly feel that’s fairly accurate with the inability to do anything save take more of the drug.

[Badger]

Yeah but it’s not a case of you take some amphetamines for a few days and bang, you’re a super-addict and withdrawal is life or death and you’re blind and can’t walk.