We make TERRIBLE suggestions and come up with horrible ideas (Round II)


There was a fair bit of discussion about can openers, but I recall someone also posted a video of a guy successfully opening a can by scraping it back and forth on concrete.


You can also use pretty much anything relatively sharp and slender, I cut a can of corned beef open with a pretty blunt carving knife once after the bit you attach the key to snapped off, not sure I’d want to try it with a can holding liquids though :thinking:

edit: you can do liquids by punching two holes in the top and widening them with a spoon or something though.


The concrete guy did a can of soup, and just stopped scraping when liquid began to seep out, then he flipped it over and pried the top off. It worked surprisingly well.


Interesting, how long did it take?
I actually use the “punch holes in the top” method when I use evaporated milk, makes it easy to pour out. I do use a can opener to make the inital holes though :stuck_out_tongue:


Hey, i found the video. It’s actually a can of tuna, and it doesn’t take long:

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He cheated! he used a knife!
But seriously that’s pretty cool, I love learning stuff like that, never know when it might come in handy.


Sex addict trait. You freaking lose your mind (morale) if you dont use a vibrator or playboy 3 times a day. Guaranteed to start with a vibrator or playboy.

Random chance of the radio in the car being on and set to like 100 decibels when you turn it onn cuz someone was blasting metal or rap when the cataclysm hit.

Random chance of there being house alarms when you enter a house. Computer skill gives you a chance to disarm them and can trigger them on failure. Can add motion sensor lights too.

Fall on your sword! If your dex drops too low (maybe below 4) You have a chance to trip and fall on your weapon for some damage and possibly kill yourself.

Hay piles have a random chance to spontaneously combust if its outside and raining. Imagine sleeping on that nice hay pile only to burn to death in your sleep.

Kindergardner zombies that swarm and kick you in the shins till your legs are broken and then they leave you there. And broken legs sets your max speed to the minimum (25 i think?)

Trying to pick up anything heavier than you (like say a 200L drum full of gasoline) has a chance of knocking it over on yourself and killing you.

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GENOCIDE trait, wherein players are forbidden to talk with NPCs and are always hostile towards them.
Its like the PSYCHOPATH trait, but provides morale boost from killing NPCs and other monsters with GUILT flag in them.

Good for those isolated jerks :heart:


More arbitrary and subjective morale penalties! Upset about defending yourself against what may as well be a midget psychopath with a knife and superhuman traits? Angsty over your shoes getting dirty because the guy next to you died in a particularly bloody manner? Why stop there!?

  • Killed a dog? MORALE PENALTY!
  • Killed a zombie dog? MORALE PENALTY!
  • Broke a limb? MORALE PENALTY!
  • In pain? MORALE PENALTY!
  • Damaged your named sword? MORALE PENALTY!
  • Crashed your car? MORALE PENALTY!
  • Killed a guy trying to kill you? MORALE PENALTY!
  • Found some of your favorite food already rotten? MORALE PENALTY!
  • Saw a particularly large and mutated zombie that would be intimidating to a normal person but you know your super mutant cyborg could take it? MORALE PENALTY!
  • Slept without a proper bed, blanket, pillow, and a goodnight kiss? You bet your flame-resistant socks+1 that’s a MORALE PENALTY!

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You attempt to pet the zombie dog. It bites your hand! -2000 mood!


Zombie dog:


Get the flamethrower, Coyote.

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Vehicles have working mirrors.

Houses can have mirror furniture.

The mirror furniture should work too and allow us to see behind corners!

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New Profession: Insurance Salesperson. Starts with a suit and briefcase, Speech 3 and Barter 3, and has a Profession Trait just called “Insurance Salesperson”.

All NPC interactions on a character with this trait contain speech checks wherein you attempt to sell them insurance on whatever the subject matter is, no matter how inappropriate the timing. Need to go retrieve some weather records? Sell them insurance on the building the records are in. They need you to rescue their dog? Pet Insurance. Kill their Zombie Mom? Life Insurance. If you pass the speech check they purchase a policy from you, resulting in you gaining some money. You will have to pay up though, if you sell them pet insurance then take the mission to rescue the dog and the dog dies.

Another effect, not listed in the description, is that the trait automatically tends mutations toward Bird (Duck) or reptile (Gecko).

Once you’re post Bird-threshold, all of your dialogue is replaced with shouts of “AFLAC!”, including NPC conversation dialogue. Extended conversations with NPCs may randomly and abruptly end with them turning hostile to get you to shut up. Also, post Bird has Shouter, which causes you to involuntarily shout “AFLAC!”, even in your sleep.


Care for some “portable” overkill?

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Vehicles require oil and break and transmission fluid as well. Also…not having windshield wiper fluid will cut off line of sight after a period of time.


When throwing Molotov cocktails with low throwing skill (3 or less), you have a chance to drop it, setting yourself alight.

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Going to sleep with enhanced memory banks enabled will eventually give you one mental illness or another. You remember everything. Your dreams. Your nightmares. Every little toss and turn. Your mind can’t really handle it. Overwhelming! You start hallucinating. Permanently. The hallucinations never seem to fade.
Turn the CBM off and things don’t get any better. Common reality sucks! It sucks so much. You miss your mania and your mind starts deteriorating without meds. Alzheimer’s disease kicks in at some point. Severe depression. Intelligence tanks. Everything is terrible! AUGH!