Unmarked minefields

[supernoob0122]

I think it’s weird that minefields are marked there should be unmarked ones with the mines hidden well (no mounds visible) and you will need a metal detector or a high trapping skill in order to spot them also we need more explosive (nail bomb anyone?)

[Random_dragon]

If I recall, it was a matter of player annoyance, not realism, that minefields were given signs.

As it stands, having them dependent on perception is realistic enough, and note that it seems rather random whether or not an undetected mine will be placed on a mound of dirt to give it away. From a strategic perspective, it serves as an adequate obstacle and deterrent (assuming your enemy isn’t undead) even if the presence of the minefield is made overt, it’s the individual mines you want hidden. XP

[John_Candlebury]

I kinda liked them being unmarked, made more sense, and they were actually dangerous.

Not even sure when or why they started being considered “annoying”?

[Random_dragon]

So aside from my loving marked minefields, and SilverDragon’s repeated mentions of it making it feasible to drive off-road in his LP, who else prefers it marked?

Mines will still fuck you over if you venture through a minefield without high perception, but at least you’ll know it exists. We do not need Nethack-style YAADs. Same reason sinkholes now act like pits. Though blowing up was in general preferable to an unwinnable game from randomly being dropped a z-level because you didn’t carry a grappling hook.

[SkyeAuroline]

I prefer them marked, personally. Unless something else gets changed to make them distinguishable in a less explicit way, but I’m not sure how you’d do that.

[jaked122]

I personally don’t like the fact that minefields are merely mounds of dirt with mines poorly hidden in them.

If real life was like that, then Cambodia wouldn’t still be suffering from chronic minefield injuries.

That being said, have you seen the way they take apart the mines? They’re ballsy as hell. I can’t find the video now, but there was this guy who just stuck a knife into an active landmine and plied it apart and removed the detonator without taking any precautions.

He was wearing sandals and I think a Hawaiian patterned shirt. Less gear than most survivors have when dealing with their first minefields I think.

[Catfoodbob]

Logical reasoning behind marked minefields is the fact that its something infecting the populace, and the zombies they know for sure are not smart, why would they endanger survivors to minefields that they cannot see.

though i do think it should be an option to have marked or unmarked minefields… or both

[Random_dragon]

And that’s the difference between how most sane militaries deploy mines and how the less…scrupulous ones go about it. If you want unmarked minefields, look at how the bandit camp is. Basically let the marked minefields stay as they are, imply they were deployed by the military, and have unmarked ones be associated with bandits and other groups that have access to that kinda hardware, but with no regulations on how to deploy them.

[John_Candlebury]

And that’s the difference between how most sane militaries deploy mines and how the less…scrupulous ones go about it. If you want unmarked minefields, look at how the bandit camp is. Basically let the marked minefields stay as they are, imply they were deployed by the military, and have unmarked ones be associated with bandits and other groups that have access to that kinda hardware, but with no regulations on how to deploy them.

Thing is that it makes no sense for the military to have deployed the minefields manually (unless they were there before the whole world went sour). Because well, the lore states that most of the army got decimated shortly after the portals took them by surprise, and no general would dedicate whatever remaining manpower they had to building minefields in the middle of nowhere.

But the whole thing does make sense if you think the mines are of the deployed by artillery/air kind. As that would explain both why they are placed in the most moronic of places and how the military was able to place so many mines why they were busy being slaughtered. You could also sometimes spawn “canister” items to mark the minefields I guess.

[Random_dragon]

That would be a logical reason, though air-dropped signs…

I thought it was implied there was some build-up due to Fallout-style tensions with China, so that might also be the reason. Plus signs of the zombie outbreak taking root even before the portal storm, though no idea whether anyone but the lab technicians knew of the blob’s existence.

That one newspaper article claiming that mutilating bodies is a good tactic to engage in and citing some impending invasion might well be a disguised attempt to mitigate the now-out-of-control outbreak without instigating a panic.

[deadmerits]

Maybe instead of dropping mines from the air, they had mine deploying robots… Just thinking out loud.

[Artyom177]

Why don’t we have both? It would make sense right? The Bandits should lay mines and IEDs everywhere if they truly are Bandits. Places like chock-points, and cramped areas where a survivor has to go through there with their vehicle. IED goes off and BOOM! Bandits have a pile of junk with goodies inside. Just like a burrito, a metal burrito filled with guns, ammo, and tons and tons of loot. But that’s just a theory of what would happen.
The military might want to cover up Demons raining down from the sky and people being infected by blobs, but I don’t think they want to kill the last of the human race by not putting signs down saying “DANGER MINEFIELD”. Yes it’s more DF that way and I love me some RNG butfuckery. But in a realistic sense it wont make any for the military to kill people by not putting down signs.

So again I say, Why not both?