General opinion on the new fuel system

Found it fun and did the math:

From the post below:
135A * 28V = 3780Watt
3780 * 5% = 189 Watt per hour, but 135A & 28 V needed too.
Googling, i found that AA batteries (who should give 1.5V) are rated for 2.4 amp-hours, so at nominal discharge rate they should give 2.4*1.5 = 3.6 Wh

To get the voltage, you’d need 28/1.5= ~19 batteries so you need 19 AA batteries in series.
To get the amperage, you’d need 135/2.4 = ~57 batteries in parallel. You can exceed the nominal 2.4A but then you run the risk of batteries overheating and exploding, plus this is detrimental to their storage capacity.
So a great big array of 57 parallel lines each consisting of 19 batteries is required to power the 135A/28V welder. This means 1083 batteries. Much more than 70.

If someone is able to wire them all together (not exceedingly hard, but should last a while - eg. using a soldering tool you should be able to wire two batteries in about 5’, so 1083*5’ = 5415’ or 90.25hours. So assuming 8 hour sessions (any more and you’ll start making mistakes), this translates into ~11.2 days of work)

After investing so much time, you’d get 1083*3.6=3.8988 kWh of stored power, which translates into 3898.8/189 = ~20.6 hours of use.
If you made sure to make this into a permanent array (and you really should if you go that far - maybe use a large wooden frame and create the grid on top of it, securing each battery in position) and also used rechargeable batteries, it would be possible with a little more knowledge to be able to recharge this contraption in place.

TD;DR
As Greiger said, its NOT easy to power a welder with AA batteries. But it is not theoretically hard to do, only time consuming and involved. We could create a recipe taking 1083 batteries and 90 hours (possibly in intermediate 10 hour steps to create a half built product), requiring mech skill ~4 and fab skill ~6 to create a ‘portable welder power supply’.
Is it worth it though? To the person in need certainly, but i personally would try to scavenge the oxy-fuel powered variant or use a car battery to power it (or install it on a car)

PS. I also ran the numbers for the size of the grid. With 50.5mm x 14.5mm batteries, plus 20mm gaps in between, it amounts to ~1.5 x 2 meters.

^ That’s why I wanted someone to check my math. Thanks mate :slight_smile:

Seems I was off a bit on the energy potential of a AA battery too. Either I forgot in the 10 years of not using the info, or batteries have gotten better since then :stuck_out_tongue:

Yea I downgraded from a death mobile to a solar trike and I can still only go a 4-5 map tiles on a charge.

I picked up a bade electric car with ~50% total charge for its 2 batteries and went 28 map tiles… my current solar car with about 10 floor trunks, 2 trunks, foodco, rv kitchen unit, welding rig, and 60L tank of water has never been close to running out of juice yet.

Are you using ultra light frames or heavier ones? What are you using for cargo capacity? How many batteries are you using?