Tips, Tricks, and Newb Questions!

[deoxy]

Remember that zombie scientists, technicians and shockers are great sources of CBM’s. Get your survival skill as high as possible and use a knife with the best butchering level you can find, like the hunting knife or butcher’s knife. This will ensure you get more functional CBM’s than burnt out bionics from corpses.

Unless it has changed recently, survival skill, dex, and butchering quality all had a part in finding CBMs from corpses that could have them, but getting burnt out bionics instead of useful stuff is just purely random.

If your dex is 12 or higher, your survival is 3 or higher, and your butchering tool has a positive butchering value, then you’re get the max on stuff. If one of those things isn’t true (say, your dex is 10), then having higher values in the others is helpful (so, a butcher knife for that 25 butchering and a survival of 6 or so), but still not guaranteed.

Other than that, the only thing that butchering quality helps with (as far as I know) is speed of butchering.

[_k1]

It’s bloody rare and can’t be crafted. Should be in just about every kitchen, you’d think, but I’ve only ever stumbled across it a couple times. Obviously this scarcity has something to do with the Illuminati and MK Ultra.

One stack of aluminum foil can be made into many tinfoil hats, though. The hats are good helms with no encmbrnc.

[Coolthulhu]

It’s bloody rare and can’t be crafted. Should be in just about every kitchen, you’d think, but I’ve only ever stumbled across it a couple times. Obviously this scarcity has something to do with the Illuminati and MK Ultra.

I bet zombie masters are behind this!

[defraggler]

[quote=“hobophobic, post:16740, topic:42”]It’s bloody rare and can’t be crafted. Should be in just about every kitchen, you’d think, but I’ve only ever stumbled across it a couple times. Obviously this scarcity has something to do with the Illuminati and MK Ultra.

One stack of aluminum foil can be made into many tinfoil hats, though. The hats are good helms with no encmbrnc.[/quote]

And makeshift funnels!

[Kryxx]

I’m also in shock that there’s all of these houses without a water heater. Cold showers must really suck in the future

[deoxy]

I’m also in shock that there’s all of these houses without a water heater. Cold showers must really suck in the future

Meh, in the future, we will have almost certainly switched primarily to the “tankless” style water heater, which is way too small to take up a whole tile. Personally, I hand-wave it away as part of the oven/sink area - you’d probably get a heating element and some copper tubing out of it.

[Kryxx]

[quote=“Kryxx, post:16745, topic:42”]I’m also in shock that there’s all of these houses without a water heater. Cold showers must really suck in the future

Meh, in the future, we will have almost certainly switched primarily to the “tankless” style water heater, which is way too small to take up a whole tile. Personally, I hand-wave it away as part of the oven/sink area - you’d probably get a heating element and some copper tubing out of it.[/quote]

I would want the 50-75gallons of water more

[Haerdalas]

Been getting lucky recently and found a few martial arts books.

So, my current options are Brawling, Pentjak Silat, and Niten Ichi-Ryu. Can people give me a breakdown of what each of these gives you, please? I would look on the wiki, but it seems to be dead…

[Taberone]

[quote=“Haerdalas, post:16748, topic:42”]Been getting lucky recently and found a few martial arts books.

So, my current options are Brawling, Pentjak Silat, and Niten Ichi-Ryu. Can people give me a breakdown of what each of these gives you, please? I would look on the wiki, but it seems to be dead…[/quote]

The wiki itself has been revived, but even then it’s outdated.

Brawling: Has counterattacking (You catch X’s attack and hit it back!) and knockback (Occasionally pushes away monsters for 1 tile upon hitting them)
Niten Ichi-Ryu: OP as heck, especially if you get yourself a Nodachi. You’ll explode zombies into gibs. You get more blocks in exchange for no dodging, killing non-hulk zombies in 1-2 hits, and killing hulks in 2-4 most of the time.
Pentjak Silat: Not sure about this one, barely used it

[Haerdalas]

Does Niten Ichi Ryu only work with oriental swords, or with all of them? Because in the same manor I got the martial arts book I got the historic weaponsmith book, and I have the full blacksmith set up back at my base…

[mlangsdorf]

Niten Ichi is wakizashi, katana, nodachi, and bokken only.

You need to learn fencing to be good with western swords.

[deoxy]

[quote=“Haerdalas, post:16748, topic:42”]Been getting lucky recently and found a few martial arts books.

So, my current options are Brawling, Pentjak Silat, and Niten Ichi-Ryu. Can people give me a breakdown of what each of these gives you, please? I would look on the wiki, but it seems to be dead…[/quote]

Brawling - meh, get a weapon. At high unarmed, it seems ok, but most of the weapon skills are better
Silat - easily in my top 3 styles. Gives knockback, knockdown, and stun to the machete (which is already a great weapon) and other small weapons
Niten - used to be crazy-stupid-break-the-universe awesome. Now it’s only very, very good - assuming you can a weapon to use it with (you can get a list of weapons for a style in the _ menu by highlighting the style hitting ?). Also, it’s much better with high perception, so if you didn’t put any points there, it’s not quite so amazing.

You’ve got 2 of the best styles around, honestly. They’re both so good, it’s hard to choose between them… except that usually, you won’t have the right weapon for Niten while the list of weapons for Silat is long and easy to find, so that makes it easy to choose.

[Haerdalas]

I did see a machete back in the lab…

Ok, looks like I will be going with Pentjak with a machete for now, then. Seeing as I have absolutely no eastern weapons right now.

[deoxy]

The only problem with Silat is that the weapons it’s for are all low-damage. They’re fast, so that’s not usually a problem (DPS is quite high), but against an armored foe… taking down a soldier zombie takes a while, for instance. That’s the only one I run into regularly that really slows me down much, but some other, rarer types of things have higher armor than that and are problematic.

[Taberone]

Why does the ENTIRE refugee center turn hostile now if you talk to the traitor (Pick the “Got something to hide” or “Get bent, traitor!” dialogue options too many times) in the “Deal with Informant” quest? I’ve never had the entire refugee center gun me down in the blink of an eye before.

[Rot]

Why does the ENTIRE refugee center turn hostile now if you talk to the traitor (Pick the “Got something to hide” or “Get bent, traitor!” dialogue options too many times) in the “Deal with Informant” quest? I’ve never had the entire refugee center gun me down in the blink of an eye before.

Sounds like a bug. Did you actually confirm that it was the traitor? I’m sure that you have to pass a speech check or something.

If all else fails, just debug that NPC and reduce torso health to zero.

[_k1]

I accidentally tattooed one of my combat knives. Now it doesn’t stack with others. How do I remove the engraving?

[Taberone]

[quote=“Taberone, post:16755, topic:42”]Why does the ENTIRE refugee center turn hostile now if you talk to the traitor (Pick the “Got something to hide” or “Get bent, traitor!” dialogue options too many times) in the “Deal with Informant” quest? I’ve never had the entire refugee center gun me down in the blink of an eye before.

Sounds like a bug. Did you actually confirm that it was the traitor? I’m sure that you have to pass a speech check or something.

If all else fails, just debug that NPC and reduce torso health to zero.[/quote]

Unless an update secretly changed something, the traitor is always in the section of the Refugee Center with the food storage and display racks, and he’s always the new guy that tells you to keep out of his way. The other guard in the room doesn’t even have significant dialogue options. I already debugged the NPC to zero torso health and confirmed it really was the traitor, but thats kinda cheating.

[Rot]

[quote=“Rot, post:16756, topic:42”][quote=“Taberone, post:16755, topic:42”]Why does the ENTIRE refugee center turn hostile now if you talk to the traitor (Pick the “Got something to hide” or “Get bent, traitor!” dialogue options too many times) in the “Deal with Informant” quest? I’ve never had the entire refugee center gun me down in the blink of an eye before.

Sounds like a bug. Did you actually confirm that it was the traitor? I’m sure that you have to pass a speech check or something.

If all else fails, just debug that NPC and reduce torso health to zero.[/quote]

Unless an update secretly changed something, the traitor is always in the section of the Refugee Center with the food storage and display racks, and he’s always the new guy that tells you to keep out of his way. The other guard in the room doesn’t even have significant dialogue options. I already debugged the NPC to zero torso health and confirmed it really was the traitor, but thats kinda cheating.[/quote]

This game is still buggy and in development, so it’s never really cheating if it’s a bug.

[pisskop]

no its using the game.
cheesing.
taking advantage.
abusing the spirit of the game.

‘cheating’ implies in games that you brought in your own ruleset or tools or w.e. in a game, but abusing the game itself as it was presented is perhaps even worse.

If you want to savescum than do it proudly, but don’t try to rationalize it away