Tips, Tricks, and Newb Questions!

Random_dragon · 2015-09-20T15:15:44.000Z

[quote=“Onisuzume, post:10134, topic:42”]So riddle me this; why is the tanto considered to be a sword in the latest experimental when it is a knife in the latest stable?
It is the same size (or smaller) than a combat knife.[/quote]

Because someone decided that the item’s volume was an indication that it shouldn’t be sheathable, instead of going the sane route and lowering its volume. Since they didn’t catch the combat knife’s volume, that’s what you’d call a PR failure, I’m afraid.

[quote=“DG123, post:10135, topic:42”]Well, that sounds like a mistake. Should definitely be a knife, right?

Which reminds me. I’m curious about scabbards. Is the benefit essentially that the weapon won’t take up volume in your inventory?

And is there much point in me wearing a sword in a scabbard if my main weapon is an awl pike? Is there an advantage to swords or is the pike just generally amazing due to the ridiculous reach?[/quote]

Pikes have delicious reach but are agonizingly slow, sadly. And yeah, scabbards and sheaths are for clearing out space in your inventory. Now that sheathed blades can be used for the purpose of butchering or cutting up clothing, this is a tad more useful than the feature originally was.

EDIT: Um no, combat knives have 2 volume, tantos have 3. I’m gonna eat you for making me assume there was a fuckup when there isn’t one. :V

DG123 · 2015-09-20T16:04:00.000Z

I have a memory of someone talking about using quickdraw Iaido strikes with scabbards.

Was that just someone suggesting ideas or is that in the game?

Xfin · 2015-09-20T16:06:51.000Z

[quote=“DG123, post:10142, topic:42”]I have a memory of someone talking about using quickdraw Iaido strikes with scabbards.

Was that just someone suggesting ideas or is that in the game?[/quote]
Does exist, but needs some high amount of skill to use it, i think 6+…

DG123 · 2015-09-20T16:14:39.000Z

[quote=“Xfin, post:10143, topic:42”][quote=“DG123, post:10142, topic:42”]I have a memory of someone talking about using quickdraw Iaido strikes with scabbards.

Was that just someone suggesting ideas or is that in the game?[/quote]
Does exist, but needs some high amount of skill to use it, i think 6+…[/quote]

Hmm. Is this Katana specific or any sword? And is it more powerful than a standard attack? I’ve tried googling but I’m not finding anything about it.

Xfin · 2015-09-20T16:31:42.000Z

[quote=“DG123, post:10144, topic:42”][quote=“Xfin, post:10143, topic:42”][quote=“DG123, post:10142, topic:42”]I have a memory of someone talking about using quickdraw Iaido strikes with scabbards.

Was that just someone suggesting ideas or is that in the game?[/quote]
Does exist, but needs some high amount of skill to use it, i think 6+…[/quote]

Hmm. Is this Katana specific or any sword? And is it more powerful than a standard attack? I’ve tried googling but I’m not finding anything about it.[/quote]
I don’t think it any more stronger, however it a attack right next to your target while your drawing out your sword rather then giving them a extra turn to smack you…(if you left them to get that close for some reason without pulling out your blade…)

just search the tool json for IAIJUTSU if you want a list…

…and now i wonder what VORPAL does on the diamond katana and broadsword…mhmm…

Random_dragon · 2015-09-20T16:35:00.000Z

VORPAL on a few of the diamond swords? It’s in the technique section, right?

Insanely high damage multiplier, also applies the little-used weighting feature to make it occur very rarely.

Xfin · 2015-09-20T16:36:54.000Z

[quote=“Random_dragon, post:10146, topic:42”]VORPAL on a few of the diamond swords? It’s in the technique section, right?

Insanely high damage multiplier, also applies the little-used weighting feature to make it occur very rarely.
[/quote]

it dosnt show on the tech list, it on the flag list… and it requires the trait to be on both to work or am i reading it wrong?..

if (p->weapon.has_flag("VORPAL") &&p->weapon.has_technique( matec_id( "VORPAL" ) ) && !x_in_y(g->natural_light_level(), 40))

haa… i see now… haha thats… something i would of never tied to do… i know the story of it but still…

Random_dragon · 2015-09-20T16:43:57.000Z

Oh. What. That’s just…now I’m curious what that does.

I’m guessing that code involves jabberwocks?

Xfin · 2015-09-20T16:47:42.000Z

[quote=“Random_dragon, post:10148, topic:42”]Oh. What. That’s just…now I’m curious what that does.

I’m guessing that code involves jabberwocks?[/quote]

killing the jabberwock with a diamond weapon gives it the vorpal tech that can randomly replace critical hits…maybe only form the iaijutsu…

Random_dragon · 2015-09-20T16:50:07.000Z

o.O

Oh that is derp. Which source file is this in, I should take a look…

Xfin · 2015-09-20T16:56:02.000Z

[quote=“Random_dragon, post:10150, topic:42”]o.O

Oh that is derp. Which source file is this in, I should take a look…[/quote]

iuse.cpp around Line 7109
mondeath.cpp around Line 567

Random_dragon · 2015-09-20T17:06:10.000Z

checks Ooh. Well, now I think I have an objective for next time I start up an adventurer.

Xfin · 2015-09-20T17:08:00.000Z

that dosn’t look like 99x to me… unless it cares about having a head somewhere that i couldn’t find

edit… breathers DO have heads…somehow

Random_dragon · 2015-09-20T17:19:16.000Z

If I recall, breathers lack heads. So that’s logically, I just can’t find the section that makes that technique ignore creatures without heads…

Catfoodbob · 2015-09-20T17:39:24.000Z

Rm228 short shotgun is extremely good if you can find the proper ammo for it.thot something you would want to use on mundane zombies but for something like hulks or annoying Npcs

Xfin · 2015-09-20T17:43:41.000Z

i wonder if Vorpal would work better with ninjutsu or niten ichi…well the chance is way to low anyway and niten tends to gib anything that isn’t a hulk

DG123 · 2015-09-20T18:28:34.000Z

Anyone here used the Ember Carrier item?

I’m wondering how long it keeps burning for before reloading it with tinder.

Is it worth using? I already have a camp fire drill.

Random_dragon · 2015-09-20T18:34:07.000Z

If I balanced it right, it should be able to at least last overnight and have some charges to spare, since that’s the longest stretch of time that it would absolutely have to last through in order to serve its purpose.

DG123 · 2015-09-20T18:45:28.000Z

Hm.

But what purpose exactly is it intended for? The camp fire drill lasts a super long time and never fails to light a fire in about 6 minutes or less.

I suppose you could use it to light dynamite fuses or something like that.

Random_dragon · 2015-09-20T18:55:43.000Z

Before I was encouraged to nerf it by making it take a turn to use, yeah.

Though when I’d first added it, that was back when string for fire drills was a bit harder to acquire for woodland characters. Now at least cattails are an abundant source of plant thread, so you’re not likely to be running out of fire drills anytime soon. @_@