So I just started a fight with an NPC for hunger-related reasons when I realized this guy took a lot of damage to take down. Like, a lot of it.
I thought NPCs took 100 damage to kill? This guy took 587. That’s not over-exaggerated from some 300 damage critical either, that was near beginning-game 30 damage max hit stuff.
Is this a bug or are there just new super-npcs that take a ton of abuse?
For some reason damage to NPCs seems to be favoring the arms and legs, AKA non-lethal areas. It makes them a bit harder to kill.
I once had a immortal NPC kill me by pocking my eyes repeatedly until death.
The mental image is so hilarious
Hmm, I think there might be a bug there, in that it’ll keep hitting a body part after it’s destroyed.
To be fair, the player benefits from the same thing, monsters can keep hitting you in a broken arm, which does nothing to you.
Here’s how it picks hit location:
int hit_value = hit_roll() - target_dodge;
hit_value += rng(-10, 10);
if (hit_value >= 30)
bp_hit = bp_eyes;
else if (hit_value >= 20)
bp_hit = bp_head;
else if (hit_value >= 10)
bp_hit = bp_torso;
else if (one_in(4))
bp_hit = bp_legs;
else
bp_hit = bp_arms;hit_roll() bundles up everything involved with stats, skills, weapon bonuses, etc*
So basically, if you hit, but just barely, it does a 1:3 split between legs and arms, and if you hit well it gets past the limbs and hits the torso, head, and eyes, in that order. The hits are guaranteed to be spread out amoung the limbs unless your hit roll exceeds their dodge by 20, which I suspect is fairly hard to do, and it’s divided between head and torso unless your roll exceeds theirs by 30. It looks like with even half way decent stats/skills and no encumbrance, you have a really good shot at hit_roll() returning really high values.
Also I think I spotted a bug in the internals, there’s a method player::base_to_hit() that I think is getting called wrong consistently, which means it’s not factoring in melee stats properly.
*Side note, this is roughly how hit_roll() works:
numdice = 1 + int(stat / 2) + skillLevel("melee") + weapon->to_hit + combat boost + specific skill/2;
sides = 10 - encumb(bp_torso);
return dice(numdice, sides);This is… totally insane ;_;
The stat used defaults to dex, but can be replaced if you’re using a certain martial art.
The specific skill used is the highest “eligible” skill amoung unarmed, bash, cut, and stab.
It also factors in drunken boxing etc.
Talking about super NPC’s: I’ve found a clone of myself. Very angry clone.
Maybe that was just a joke from RNG, but… fighting on zweihanders when both have melee skill near to 20 - fucking hilarious. One hit through - and you’re probably dead.
[quote=“Kevin Granade, post:4, topic:3446”]Hmm, I think there might be a bug there, in that it’ll keep hitting a body part after it’s destroyed.
To be fair, the player benefits from the same thing, monsters can keep hitting you in a broken arm, which does nothing to you.
Here’s how it picks hit location:
int hit_value = hit_roll() - target_dodge;
hit_value += rng(-10, 10);
if (hit_value >= 30)
bp_hit = bp_eyes;
else if (hit_value >= 20)
bp_hit = bp_head;
else if (hit_value >= 10)
bp_hit = bp_torso;
else if (one_in(4))
bp_hit = bp_legs;
else
bp_hit = bp_arms;hit_roll() bundles up everything involved with stats, skills, weapon bonuses, etc*
So basically, if you hit, but just barely, it does a 1:3 split between legs and arms, and if you hit well it gets past the limbs and hits the torso, head, and eyes, in that order. The hits are guaranteed to be spread out amoung the limbs unless your hit roll exceeds their dodge by 20, which I suspect is fairly hard to do, and it’s divided between head and torso unless your roll exceeds theirs by 30. It looks like with even half way decent stats/skills and no encumbrance, you have a really good shot at hit_roll() returning really high values.
Also I think I spotted a bug in the internals, there’s a method player::base_to_hit() that I think is getting called wrong consistently, which means it’s not factoring in melee stats properly.
*Side note, this is roughly how hit_roll() works:
numdice = 1 + int(stat / 2) + skillLevel("melee") + weapon->to_hit + combat boost + specific skill/2;
sides = 10 - encumb(bp_torso);
return dice(numdice, sides);This is… totally insane ;_;
The stat used defaults to dex, but can be replaced if you’re using a certain martial art.
The specific skill used is the highest “eligible” skill amoung unarmed, bash, cut, and stab.
It also factors in drunken boxing etc.[/quote]
Well it told me I kept hitting him in his eyes. Though he had a riot helmet on so maybe it soaked up damage it wasn’t telling me about?
Ahh, yea that’s a really good point, it assumes the eyes are always the best target, so you could be wearing admantium safety glasses and an expert martial artist would just keep hitting the glasses even if they’re totally undefended otherwise 
What it needs is a total rework where it intelligently ranks target points by vulnerability and payoff, even completely ignoring some targets if they’re too well defended, and higher skill/luck means you hit the spots that will actually do something.
Well, eventually the expert martial artist would pound the glasses into the NPC’s face, but yeah.
(02Feb!Ka’lol, with Unarmed and Melee around 6-8 at the time, managed to Taekwondo-punch an NPC 6 consecutive times in the face without her getting a shot off. She’d claimed the immediate area around his Lab.)
I’m curious, do eye shots act as headstots, but inflict the “blind” status?
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