Chemistry as a Skill (Need fleshed-out low level Recipes to make this happen!)

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“result”: “Fungicide”,
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The first recipy makes copper-acetate a mild fungicide, green pigment and useful for making batteries or galvanizing metal objects. It is crafted by dissolving small copper pieces in hot vinegar.

The second recipy is arsenic-triacetate a very potent poison. It is crafted by roasting iron ore in a fire and catching the smoke in tubings to cool it down. It will result in a white powder. Purity will be bad but its a strong poison nontheless. Most iron ores contain small amounts of arsenic, so using a lot of ore will result in a small amount of arsenic-trioxide. The ore can be processed like normal.

The third recipy is a VERY potent insecticide, fungicide and herbizide. It could be used against spiders, ants, fungal stuff and triffid stuff. But its also poisonous to human…

From Wikipedia: Paris Green Paris green - Wikipedia

This toxic mixture is said "to have burned the trees and the grass around the trees".

Those are the first recipies I ever made. They probably contain errors… Also I don’t know if this already exists in game.

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Excellent, more potentially useful ideas.

Also, we could add lead acetate as a highly unhealthy sweetener. This might be a logical example of a “transitional” recipe that requires both cooking and chemistry. Lemme see about cooking up (huehuehue) a recipe example for it.

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“result”: “lead_ii_acetate”,
“category”: “CC_FOOD”,
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“skills_required”: [ “cooking”, 1 ],
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Noisemaker bombs out of a bottle, plastic bag, vinegar and baking soda. Could cause shrapnel too, just really low damage. (a)ctivate it to shake it and toss before it blows up in your hand.
Also taps for extracting sap from birch trees, and refine that into xylitol.
And making aspirin from willow tree bark (if we have those)

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We need birch trees, yeah. Then I could add more fun things to More Survival Tools. X3

In any case, I would suggest you post a full-fledged recipe so it can at least be edited for usability, if not implemented as-is.

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Okay, don’t have access to Notepad++ at the very moment, so gonna post the basic recipes.

Noisemaker bomb:
Tools: None
Qualities: None
Recipe: Vinegar, plastic bag, plastic bottle, baking soda
Use: Blows up to make noise and very low-damage shrapnel.

Xylitol:
Tools: Chemistry set
Qualities: Containing (1)
Recipe: Birch sap, hydrogen
Use: Replacement for sugar in recipes. (Birch sap could be drank for a small morale and health boost, since it is sweet and healthy)

Aspirin:
Tools: Chemistry set
Qualities: Containing (1)
Recipe: Concentrated acid, willow bark, strong alcohol
Use: Obviously painkillers (Willow bark can be chewed on to also relieve very minor pain, like, 1/8 as effective as aspirin)

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Ah, that helps some. Further suggestions of relative amounts of ingredient, how high a skill you think sounds reasonable, and whether any other qualities (cutting, boiling, containing, cooking, etc) would be required also help, I suspect.

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[quote=“Zaweri Runewright, post:45, topic:9685”]Aspirin:
Tools: Chemistry set
Recipe: Concentrated acid, willow bark, strong alcohol
Use: Obviously painkillers (Willow bark can be chewed on to also relieve very minor pain, like, 1/8 as effective as aspirin)[/quote]
Don’t we have this already? - Quick check later: Jepp water, oxydizer, 2-by-4; tool: chemset; makes aspirin

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[quote=“DooMJake, post:47, topic:9685”][quote=“Zaweri Runewright, post:45, topic:9685”]Aspirin:
Tools: Chemistry set
Recipe: Concentrated acid, willow bark, strong alcohol
Use: Obviously painkillers (Willow bark can be chewed on to also relieve very minor pain, like, 1/8 as effective as aspirin)[/quote]
Don’t we have this already? - Quick check later: Jepp water, oxydizer, 2-by-4; tool: chemset; makes aspirin[/quote]’
2x4 to make aspirin? wait wat

Anyways,

Done. Skill requirements I am not sure, I’ll let you guys handle the balance.

EDIT:
Ammonium Chloride
Tools: Chemistry set
Qualities: Containing (1)
Recipe: Hydrochloric acid, ammonia
Use: Could be used in food recipes, or as fertilizer.

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Ah right, wood. Dafuq? I assume that’s an abstraction from our lack of birch trees.

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“result”: “Formaldehyde”,
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“components”: [
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[ “silver”, 5 ],
[ “methanol”, 15 ]
]
]
}

{
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“result”: “Hexamine”,
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[ “Ammonia”, 15 ]
]
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}

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Formaldehyde is formed by heating methanol and silver powder to 650°C. Silver acts as a catalyst.
Nitric acid is formed by reacting ammonia and water and Platinum powder as a catalyst. I think silver is close enough because I think there is no Platinum in game.
Hexamine is formed by reacting nitric acid and ammonia.

Those recipies might not be so useful since the products are readily available in labs, but maybe there is some use for them. Apart from destillation there is no easy diy way of producing methanol, but it should be available in hardware stores.
It’s not so hard to produce these chemicals if you know how so the difficulty could be reduced but since hexamine is so useful for making explosives it should not be too easy to obtain.

Ah right, wood. Dafuq? I assume that's an abstraction from our lack of birch trees.

Actually there are some plants that contain salicin or salicylic acid. Like Poplars and Willows, Wild pansy, Meadowsweet and American wintergreen and some more. I assume wood is a not so bad abstraction here. But preferably there should be some other sources.

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Excellent. If I recall, hexamine currently can’t be crafted, so this has its uses. Doubly so if you use the esbit stove in More Survival Tools.