Bokken seems a bit -too- good

[Logrin]

I know the rule of cool tends to mean eastern style weapons err on the side of ‘better than they should be’ in cata, but the recently added bokken hits a tad too hard. It’s currently just as good as an iron-shod quarterstaff (A longer, heavier weapon with metal as a striking surface) and out damages the halligan bar. That just seems like a small oversight to me, but I could be wrong.

[Coolthulhu]

It was even better when it first got in. It had just 1 dmg less than the sledge hammer.

Though in this case it’s more that iron-shod quarterstaff and halligan bar are weak - bashing weapons in general are quite bad. Or more like, piercing and cutting weapons are too good and bokken is balanced against power creep monstrosities like katana or combat knife.

[KA101]

The katana and combat knife have been around since Whales. I’m hard-pressed to know how two of the oldest weapons in the game represent power creep.

(Bokken is based on the katana because it’s a solid hardwood katana.)

[Coolthulhu]

The katana and combat knife have been around since Whales. I’m hard-pressed to know how two of the oldest weapons in the game represent power creep.

My mistake - I got “mental windup” after talking about the new tailor’s kit (which actually does cause power creep at the moment because of no downsides).
I meant: “easily available weapons with great stats”. Power creep made them more powerful, though not directly.

[Logrin]

(Bokken is based on the katana because it's a solid hardwood katana.)

Oh believe you me, I know how strong hardwood can be, you can actually bust bricks with a thick handle of hickory! Still, a bokken shouldn’t hit harder than heavier slabs of iron/steel designed to actually break things, right? They’re practice swords (Deadly in skilled hands sure, but not nearly as much as a real weapon)

That’s just my opinion though–if everyone else is happy with it who am I to disagree?

[Jakers]

I believe the Bokken should have a high to-hit bonus and excel at being a very fast weapon, but I’m with Logrin on reducing its damage output.

…This having as much bash damage than a powerful quarterstaff tipped with heavy iron? …It just doesn’t seem to make any sense. However, to compensate for a damage nerf, the moves per attack could be buffed to still give it an effective DPS.

[Murphy]

It is weighted, supposedly, so it weighs just as much as a katana.
Moves per attack are calculated automatically from weapon weight and volume.

[Barhandar]

And as for quarterstaves, blame them being nerfed from the 30 damage for the ironshod one to 25, and from 25 to 20 for plain wood one.

Speaking of nerfs. A part of it will never get in, but: how about adding a toothpick “weapon” in with negative damage and handling and automatically transforming any weapon people above complained about into it?