For some reason I was sure that you could use soap bars in washing machines

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For some reason I was sure that you could use soap bars in washing machines but apparently you can’t. Was that changed recently, or am I just imaging it? I did a quick Google and as far as I can tell there’s no real life reason you couldn’t hit your soap bar with a hammer and use the bits to wash clothes. At least not by post apocalypse standards.

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I think washing power is some kind of superior resource, which can’t be crafted and allows superior machine washing action. And soap is a craftable alternative for manual washing, which is less effective.
But maybe someone has better explanation?

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Realistically you COULD use regular soap if crushed up enough to almost powdery bits and washed with warm water, but the water would need to be hot enough to soften/melt the soap and it would need to be a bit different than the washing machines we’re used to.

Detergent, however, is a powdery chemical substance like any other(that can be made at home) and should be craftable.

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The only thing blocking those from being in the game is someone doing the work to include them.
See Idea - Craftable detergent · Issue #29330 · CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA · GitHub

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Could we do something like the following?
Recipe
/recipes/recipe_medsandchemicals.json

[
  {
    "type": "recipe",
    "result": "makeshift_detergent",
    "category": "CC_CHEM",
    "subcategory": "CSC_CHEM_CHEMICALS",
    "skill_used": "cooking",
    "difficulty": 0,
    "time": 200,
    "autolearn": true,
    "charges": 20,
    "qualities": [ { "id": "FILE", "level": 1 } ],
    "components": [
      [ [ "soap", 20 ] ]
    ]
  }
]

\items\tools.json

  {
    "id": "rasp",
    "type": "TOOL",
    "name": "rasp",
    "description": "This is a rasp. It is used to shape and remove excess wood.",
    "weight": "760 g",
    "volume": "290 ml",
    "price": 1100,
    "to_hit": 0
    "bashing": 1,
    "material": "steel",
    "symbol": ";",
    "color": "light_gray",
    "qualities": [ [ "FILE", 1 ] ]
  },
  {
    "id": "grater",
    "type": "TOOL",
    "name": "grater",
    "description": "This is a cheese grater.  In better times it was used to grate cheese, slice vegetables and extract zest from lemons. It's used in some cooking and chemistry recipes.",
    "weight": "360 g",
    "volume": "190 ml",
    "price": 300,
    "to_hit": -1,
    "bashing": 1,
    "material": "steel",
    "symbol": ";",
    "color": "light_gray",
    "qualities": [ [ "FILE", 1 ] ]
  }
]
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Yes, but the crafting recipe needs to make something that’s not detergent.

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“makeshift detergent” and add that to what washing machines can use?

8

Yep.
If you’ll do the JSON, adding the item and recipe, I’ll do the C++ to make it work with washing machines.

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Yeek, well I can try. It may take some time, if I manage to finish at all.

The items I added (rasp, grater) would need to be found.

I’ll draft out stuff in thread first.
Added “grater” to kitchen drops just above the waffle iron. I can’t imagine more people have waffle irons than graters.
\itemgroups\collections_domestic.json

    "items": [
      [ "toaster", 30 ],
      [ "microwave", 30 ],
      [ "coffeemaker", 30 ],
      [ "food_processor", 30 ],
      [ "grater", 25 ],
      [ "waffleiron", 25 ],
      [ "flashlight", 20 ],
      [ "extinguisher", 20 ],
      [ "sm_extinguisher", 10 ],
      [ "pastaextruder", 10 ],
      [ "dehydrator", 10 ],
      [ "hotplate", 10 ],
      [ "clock", 10 ],
      [ "multi_cooker", 5 ],
      [ "char_smoker", 5 ],
      [ "can_sealer", 2 ],
      [ "atomic_coffeepot", 1 ]
    ]

\itemgroups\tools.json
Added “rasp” to common household tools after metal_file

  {
    "id": "tools_common",
    "type": "item_group",
    "//": "Common household tools",
    "items": [
      [ "hacksaw", 50 ],
      [ "hammer", 80 ],
      [ "misc_repairkit", 25 ],
      [ "pliers", 60 ],
      [ "saw", 60 ],
      [ "screwdriver", 100 ],
      [ "screwdriver_set", 50 ],
      [ "wrench", 40 ],
      [ "xacto", 40 ],
      [ "bucket", 5 ],
      [ "jumper_cable", 10 ],
      [ "funnel", 50 ],
      [ "claw_bar", 2 ],
      [ "crowbar", 10 ],
      [ "thermometer", 5 ],
      [ "multitool", 10 ],
      [ "recharge_station", 10 ],
      [ "hand_crank_charger", 25 ],
      [ "metal_file", 10 ],
      [ "rasp", 8 ],
      [ "hand_vice", 10 ]
    ]
  },

Added “rasp” to tools_carpentry after chisel

  {
    "id": "tools_carpentry",
    "type": "item_group",
    "//": "Portable tools used for carpentry",
    "items": [
      { "group": "tools_common", "prob": 100 },
      [ "circsaw_off", 100 ],
      [ "cordless_drill", 100 ],
      [ "hand_drill", 20 ],
      [ "nailgun", 100 ],
      [ "chisel", 10 ],
      [ "rasp", 10 ],
      [ "toolbox", 15 ]
    ]
  },

And of course you need the actual makeshift detergent itself.

\items\chemicals_and_resources.json

  {
    "type": "AMMO",
    "id": "makeshift_detergent",
    "category": "chems",
    "price": 500,
    "name": "makeshift detergent",
    "symbol": "=",
    "color": "white",
    "description": "Soap gratings as a crude substitute for detergent.",
    "material": "powder",
    "volume": "250 ml",
    "weight": "1 g",
    "ammo_type": "components",
    "container": "bag_plastic",
    "count": 20
  },
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