Tips, Tricks, and Newb Questions!

[pisskop]

[quote=“Kurt_Wulfgang, post:12660, topic:42”]Again, might be spoiler

I talked to the representative at the refugee center and became a US Marshall, she said there was a group of people that i should see near a gas station but they are not marked on the map and most of the stations are empty. What should i do ?

Quests have a little ‘marker’ that pops up in the border of your minimap that make them hard to ignore. Press (M)issions menu and try to find this place.

[G.E.C]

[quote=“Kurt_Wulfgang, post:12660, topic:42”]Again, might be spoiler

I talked to the representative at the refugee center and became a US Marshall, she said there was a group of people that i should see near a gas station but they are not marked on the map and most of the stations are empty. What should i do ?

It’s not a normal mission, it’s a hint. Also it’s not a gas station, it’s a “pump station”, it’s a special building that only spawns in a special place.

[BeerBeer]

What is “Toggle skill training”? It’s a command visible in the help menu in the character info sheet view. Default key ‘enter’. You can highlight a skill and hit ‘enter’ and it turns the skill name dark blue but doesn’t seem to do anything. Does it prevent the skill development altogether or what?

[pisskop]

You can actually turn off skill gain.

As in, no experience in that area. Its a pretty old feature.

[deoxy]

What is “Toggle skill training”? It’s a command visible in the help menu in the character info sheet view. Default key ‘enter’. You can highlight a skill and hit ‘enter’ and it turns the skill name dark blue but doesn’t seem to do anything. Does it prevent the skill development altogether or what?

It makes that skill no longer improve, and I assume that doing such tasks no longer takes focus, as that would be the only reason I can think of to do so.

[TheKobold]

Im constantly tired 3-4 hours after waking up, despite doing very little. Is this a symptom of some kind of sickness, nothing is showing up on my character screen and i havent had any weird messages.

[Coolthulhu]

Im constantly tired 3-4 hours after waking up, despite doing very little. Is this a symptom of some kind of sickness, nothing is showing up on my character screen and i havent had any weird messages.

Do you sleep as soon as you get tired or wait for the night/day/etc.? Do you get “you feel well rested” on wakeup?
Are you biking a lot (even if just to power an alternator)?

Tiredness is a single value, if you stop sleeping while it’s still high, it will reach “tired” much sooner.

[TheKobold]

I sleep when its dark unless im not tired but that hasnt been a problem lately, I havent gotten to the point of well rested yet my health value is still below 10, i am using vitamins and have a makeshift bed. I usually wake up right before or right after sunrise, then 2-4 hours later im tired. I havent been doing much but looting houses during the day that are close by, occasionally i go a little over my weight limit but nothing that hurts more than a few points. I have heavy sleeper and chemical imbalance but i always play with those and this isnt normal behavior.

[Coolthulhu]

If you don’t sleep long enough to regenerate tiredness to zero, it can easily be high when you wake up.
You could check it in debug menu when laying to sleep and then on wakeup.

Heavy sleeper doesn’t change anything here, but chemical imbalance increases tiredness rate slightly.

[TheKobold]

I let my guy wake up naturally so i dont see how i i wouldnt be getting enough sleep… bah frustrating.

[Coolthulhu]

Natural sleep has a cap on length - 10 hours.
If you have no insomnia trait, you can retry sleeping after waking up - it can often be successful. If you have the insomnia trait, sleep problems are a feature, not a bug.

A full-length sleep regenerates 240 fatigue. Tired status starts at 195 or so.
1 fatigue is gained per 5 minutes, so 12 per hour, meaning it should be 20 hours (with no traits) per full length sleep. 20 hours to get fatigued back to pre-sleep point, not to get “tired” status.

Sleeping until “well rested” gives a small bonus on top of that - 25 points, so 2 hours.

[TheKobold]

Ok that clears up some things. It may have been a few days i went till dead tired and just had to burn off the fatigue. It seems to be clearing up slowly as ive been playing tonight so this seems like the most likely thing. Appreciate the help!

[Random_dragon]

Ok that clears up some things. It may have been a few days i went till dead tired and just had to burn off the fatigue. It seems to be clearing up slowly as ive been playing tonight so this seems like the most likely thing. Appreciate the help!

Ah. I tend to hit the hat when tired rather than dead tired. o3o

[Rot]

I usually craft/read till I drop, otherwise I’ll hit the hay at ‘tired’

[TheKobold]

Ah. I tend to hit the hat when tired rather than dead tired. o3o

I go till dark, cant waste that precious daylight. And i usually only get dead tired if im dragging an anvil home or some other strenuous task.

[pisskop]

Insomniac Joe beats you all by actaully failing to fall asleep in the early ‘tired’ stages. Ive taken ambien and still failed.

The only reason to fall asleep at ‘tired’ for me is to break a cycle where I get dead tired like 5 hours after waking. The spam from that is so annoying.

[RoboViking]

I used evac shelter computer, pressed 3, "refugee center is marked on my map."
When I turn on the map I can’t find the center.
Any tips on how to locate it? I have tried to search for “center” and “refugee” etc but no luck.
City size is 5 (heard that sity size can cause center not to spawn).
If it is not in the map, can I hack it into the game somehow, I really want those quests.

Thanks

[pisskop]

It gives that message regardless of actual results. So its possible that it did mark the zero centers near you on your map

[RoboViking]

It gives that message regardless of actual results. So its possible that it did mark the zero centers near you on your map

Can I hack the map somehow to make a shelter pop up? I would really like those quests.
Thanks
EDIT: I did some google. Map is divided into multiple overmaps. I made copy of save, teleported to the next overmap over, then used “reveal map” to reveal that overmap. Searched for center. Wrote down the coordinates.
Made sure that my eyeballs and my brain did not remember the map.
Loaded the backup save. Continued playing pretending that my character received the coordinates to the center.

[Arek_PL]

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