Tips, Tricks, and Newb Questions!

Dlightfull · 2015-06-06T14:20:27.000Z

[quote=“joxer, post:8380, topic:42”]These are the weapons that supposedly work with any unarmed martial art- http://cdda.estilofusion.com/flags/UNARMED_WEAPON
As for my experience, The difference is truly unnoticeable imo. That is unless you get used to using one, Then take it off. ( Or “Upgrade” to tigerclaws )

Personally i love the punch dagger, Being the best unarmed weapon you can sheath as a knife it’s a pleasant mid-game weapon.[/quote]

Well, the whole point of my post is to understand if it’s intended or maybe a bug? I should deal a good deal more damage with a punch dagger than with my bare fists and this isn’t happening for some reason. Is this as it should be, or this should be reported as a bug?

Shopkeeper · 2015-06-06T14:29:59.000Z

Thirty seconds of !!SCIENCE!! later.
No, it’s not a bug. Punch Dagger and Karate are incompatible with one another. You can’t use them together.

Random_dragon · 2015-06-06T14:35:30.000Z

[quote=“troll from behind, post:8378, topic:42”]It should tell you what you can and can’t use in the unarmed menu by pressing !.
If it works the style is blue, if not red.
In-game, that is.[/quote]

Thing is, some weapons that I know work with a given style will make the display turn red.

What really seems to be the big red flag (huehuehue) is if the style indicator changes to the “no style” one when you wield it.

troll_from_behind · 2015-06-06T15:27:49.000Z

Krav Maga is enough op as it is when barehanded.
Fast strike should have a heftier damage reduction.
If anyone happens to found an ancient Martial Hero-supplement for Hero System it has some more martial arts to be ported to Cata.

Random_dragon · 2015-06-06T15:30:22.000Z

[quote=“troll from behind, post:8384, topic:42”]Krav Maga is enough op as it is when barehanded.
Fast strike should have a heftier damage reduction.
If anyone happens to found an ancient Martial Hero-supplement for Hero System it has some more martial arts to be ported to Cata.[/quote]

But it’s the delicious kinda OP. ;A;

Shopkeeper · 2015-06-06T16:05:44.000Z

One day I will find a book on Krav Maga, then I will combine 20 Base Strength + Hydraulic Muscles + Aderanline Pump + a Punch Dagger and I will literally knife punch everything to death.

Random_dragon · 2015-06-06T16:26:08.000Z

Fist-stab all the things?

Shopkeeper · 2015-06-06T16:40:52.000Z

That works to.

Azrad · 2015-06-06T16:41:51.000Z

Go for boxing instead! Cross counter and uppercut everything to death with a punch dagger!

Random_dragon · 2015-06-06T16:44:47.000Z

Please assume the position. :V

Shopkeeper · 2015-06-06T16:53:36.000Z

Now I’ll just have to engrave the words FISTO on to it.

BeerBeer · 2015-06-06T16:54:55.000Z

Any tips for finding steel chains?

They take 8hrs 40mins to craft in my version… I suspect disassembling foot cranks and chainsaws would yield steel chains but I’m more interested if deconstructing something would yield them too? Do parks have swings for children, for example?

Random_dragon · 2015-06-06T17:05:23.000Z

Shopkeeper:

Now I’ll just have to engrave the words FISTO on to it.

Dooo iiiit.

[quote=“BeerBeer, post:8392, topic:42”]Any tips for finding steel chains?

They take 8hrs 40mins to craft in my version… I suspect disassembling foot cranks and chainsaws would yield steel chains but I’m more interested if deconstructing something would yield them too? Do parks have swings for children, for example?[/quote]

Sometimes hardware stores, and some basements. Though both might also yield foot cranks as well. Unsure if anything has them in constructions.

kilozombie · 2015-06-06T17:09:42.000Z

How should I level up survival in the current experimentals?

In old Cataclysm, butchering the shit out of everything in sight did that job just fine. But with the new exp system it’s taking a bit longer than expected, I’ve been on Survival 3 for 15 ingame days despite regularly searching underbrush, butchering corpses, etc.

Random_dragon · 2015-06-06T17:11:46.000Z

As with most skills, a few disparate recipes are always available, if you’re willing to hunt through craploads of recipes. The search option gives you the choice of filtering via skill used instead of the default of searching in result item name.

kilozombie · 2015-06-06T17:13:40.000Z

Random_dragon:

As with most skills, a few disparate recipes are always available, if you’re willing to hunt through craploads of recipes. The search option gives you the choice of filtering via skill used instead of the default of searching in result item name.

Looks like I could AK some hulks and cure their hides for the time being.

Dlightfull · 2015-06-06T17:40:06.000Z

[quote=“Shopkeeper, post:8382, topic:42”]Thirty seconds of !!SCIENCE!! later.
No, it’s not a bug. Punch Dagger and Karate are incompatible with one another. You can’t use them together.[/quote]

Then why am i able to do that stunning hit while 'w’ielding the punch dagger?

kilozombie · 2015-06-06T17:48:05.000Z

[quote=“Dlightfull, post:8397, topic:42”][quote=“Shopkeeper, post:8382, topic:42”]Thirty seconds of !!SCIENCE!! later.
No, it’s not a bug. Punch Dagger and Karate are incompatible with one another. You can’t use them together.[/quote]

Then why am i able to do that stunning hit while 'w’ielding the punch dagger?[/quote]

A stunning hit is when you, presumably, hit somebody using your fist.

Karate is not a fist-based martial art, AFAIK. A punch dagger sort of faces the same way that brass knuckles do, so at best, you use your hand to chop at their neck and the blade happens to connect with their chin.

Shopkeeper · 2015-06-06T17:50:13.000Z

Dlightfull:

Then why am i able to do that stunning hit while 'w’ielding the punch dagger?

I dunno, I just spawned myself a Punch Dagger and gave myself Karate to test it. 'w’ielding it excluded me from using Karate in the latest experimental. I know if you hit something hard enough with a melee weapon you have a chance of stunning the target.

Random_dragon · 2015-06-06T17:53:24.000Z

Apparently unarmed and/or blunt weapons in general stun of crit, that’s one thing I loved about Krav Maga only to discover was common to unarmed in general.