Except… that… it wouldn’t have any of the benefits of a public repo. Since it’s his code. And I don’t have it. I would have to get it, from him, every time.
Also, my ESL comment was in relation to you saying it was an excuse for his attitude. None of your corrections removed the fact that it was a pretty damn insulting statement by most standards. Now, I don’t mind, I find it amusing, but it’s hard to argue it’s not intended to be insulting.
[quote=“Justice, post:356, topic:528”]https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/dc0a6f8e95297e136caff24559bce220a02b84625f532c1a10e94ecf733eef76/analysis/1370731025/
Only 1 out of 45 total, and AntiVir has higher heuristics than many others, which is probably why it complained.[/quote]
Thanks for running tests.
I was pretty sure it was no issue, I just didn’t get around to playing yet because my AV deleted the files without asking as I went to click on one of them, and then I looked at my clock and noticed the time.
Gonna start playing as soon as I get my AV to ignore it, I’ll post my thoughts tomorrow probably.
Except… that… it wouldn’t have any of the benefits of a public repo. Since it’s his code. And I don’t have it. I would have to get it, from him, every time.
Also, my ESL comment was in relation to you saying it was an excuse for his attitude. None of your corrections removed the fact that it was a pretty damn insulting statement by most standards. Now, I don’t mind, I find it amusing, but it’s hard to argue it’s not intended to be insulting.[/quote]
I never saw how anyone could take offense at such comments. Wow, Glyph, I think you just evaporated the cloud I was living on. So, I’m either far more thick-skinned than I ever realized, or I’m far more Pollyanna. If there’s even a difference.
I just lost the game.
[quote=“Justice, post:353, topic:528”]
You’d prefer a distorted view? That’s as unbelievable to me as if you told me you like to eat sand. But you know that’s just a setting you can change, there is no need to dislike it. Just set it any way you like and feel free to torture your eyes and mind with any kind of terribly skewed and unnatural geometry you wish.
“You prefer…” is not incorrect. Why do you think it is? “You would prefer…” has different meaning, it implies conditional statement, as in: “you would prefer if…”, so it’s not fitting.
“That’s unbelievable as if…” is not incorrect as well. Why do you think it is?
“Prefer distorted view” is also not incorrect. Why do you think it is?
I guess English is not your first language either, and what’s your point anyway? Does it look to you I am struggling to express myself? Is there something I said you are struggling to understand? I’m right here, if you have some problem with something I said I am the best person to talk to about it.
There exists no reason for you to not like it. You can make custom characters just as before. The difference how to go about it is trivial and insignificant. But if that is reason enough for you to ignore the game itself and everything else that actually matters, then don’t play it.
Where did you get the idea I should listen to you or anyone? Did I charge you for it? Did you help me make it or test it? You are not entitled to make any demands or even requests, you can only make suggestions and be grateful I’m sharing this mod with you which I am MAKING FOR MYSELF.
The reason should be obvious enough. You're the dev. If I were going to playtest your build for you and provide feedback, I would end up arguing with you over everything because you refuse to acknowledge that any decision you've made might not be a good one.
What do you imagine gives you the right to insist on how will I make my mod? You could just as well try to argue what will I eat for breakfast. Every decision I made is a good one as long as I like it. That doesn’t mean I don’t like feedback, I do and I do consider everyone’s suggestions, many of which I did implement even though I didn’t really care. It’s because I’m so kind and amazing.
People say they don't like the aesthetic changes you've made to the game and you basically insult them.
You misunderstood. What are you referring to anyway?
I'd have to find my own workarounds for all the features I don't like, because it would be impossible to convince you that they weren't good additions. I have no interest in any of this. Take that for what you will - I'm not pulling any punches, your attitude as a developer is a major roadblock to people trying your work. If you want to victimise yourself and call it prejudice then fine, but it's a just completely natural response to the acerbic attitude you project.
It’s amuses me there are people who will not even try the game just because of their opinion about my personality. It’s funny, I’m laughing.
Lazycat’s grammar is not wrong, but I do feel like his intentions are skewed.
I feel that he comes across as a mobster with a machine gun, breaking down doors because people don’t play his house rules in Monopoly, and shooting anybody who doesn’t immediately play their game by his rules.
I know that’s not what you intend at all, but I feel that it’s what I should take from all this, and what I should use as a metaphor. You are
[size=18pt]actively insulting people for being part of the status quo.[/size]
Nobody feels better about it, and in addition, most people feel excluded or alarmed. It’s what turned me off your mod, and partly why some devs are strongly against putting a lot of your changes into mainline. You’ve done some great things with your mod, but you’re pushing people away left and right- it can’t be the good way around this.
[quote=“nadia911, post:360, topic:528”]If the territory explored on a map is “erased” when I go to a new map then is a big problem for me… because I like to play as an explorer, I can explore many maps in quite some time, aboard my vehicle, that was one of the features that I liked from the beginning of Cataclysm, unfortunately, each new Rev. MGS changes are becoming less enjoyable for me, sorry for that.
Regards[/quote]
So you want me to put glitching back into the game, or spend whole next week rewriting it? Nothing gets erased and is in no way preventing you to explore as many maps as you wish. But if that and military time display is more important to you than everything else, just delete the game from your computer and problem solved.
To be honest, LC, I’m probably the only person on the entire forum that doesn’t have a problem with something you’ve said.
You express yourself, colorfully, but when directed at individuals you do it in ways that are seen as offensive. As you’ve been told, directly, several times in this thread, which leads me to believe you’re incapable of processing such information. I don’t know. Is it a social custom, are you trying to be amusing, are you egocentric, are you socially inept? Regardless, I don’t believe you’re intentionally trying to be offensive. (You’re right there, why don’t you tell me.)
Where others see insulting or acerbic, I see whimsical (the poem), culturally different, amusingly obtuse or socially insensitive due to social customs. But, then, I tend to live in the clouds and always see the best of intentions. I, also, know from experience that some social customs can be incredibly offensive to people that don’t expect them. In some countries friends punch one another, or embrace, or do both and in some countries they call each other by vulgar names. (Certain cities in Mexico and America are prime examples of the latter.)
What country are you from, anyway?
The whole point of this mod is to infect your computers with AIDS. But please, don’t hate me just because I’m evil.
[quote=“Justice, post:368, topic:528”]To be honest, LC, I’m probably the only person on the entire forum that doesn’t have a problem with something you’ve said.
You express yourself, colorfully, but when directed at individuals you do it in ways that are seen as offensive. As you’ve been told, directly, several times in this thread, which leads me to believe you’re incapable of processing such information. I don’t know. Is it a social custom, are you trying to be amusing, are you egocentric, are you socially inept? Regardless, I don’t believe you’re intentionally trying to be offensive. (You’re right there, why don’t you tell me.)[/quote]
I wouldn’t say I’ve taken offense, but I am quite difficult to offend. Comments such as how this mod is an atomic clock to the broken watch of the vanilla build, though, make LazyCat very hard to take seriously. Between such ridiculous statements, the poems, and the insistence on things like sound or square fonts (which are personally taste issues) being the best ways to play, I’m left with very little desire to play test or encourage the project.
Normally I’d be happy to help with testing, feedback, and even help submitting things to to Git, but in this case I can’t bring myself to encourage someone. If my feedback was going to be taken reasonably, politely, and like an adult, I would. Part of my enjoyment of Cataclysm is the community. Hunting bugs and discussing how the game is evolving is great, but if the rest of the community acted like this, I wouldn’t even have an account on the forums.
Whenever I start a new game, I have the choice of the latest Git build, the latest release, or one of a few mods to play. I would prefer to spend my time playing the latest git build. While some of the additions are interesting to me, I can wait until they’re in the main build. If any of my problems with others are raised, it’s impossible to even raise personal preference without being compared to someone preferring silent movies, or other such over the top ego filled arguments.
tl;dr don’t want to encourage the ego.
[quote=“Justice, post:368, topic:528”]To be honest, LC, I’m probably the only person on the entire forum that doesn’t have a problem with something you’ve said.
You express yourself, colorfully, but when directed at individuals you do it in ways that are seen as offensive. As you’ve been told, directly, several times in this thread, which leads me to believe you’re incapable of processing such information. I don’t know. Is it a social custom, are you trying to be amusing, are you egocentric, are you socially inept? Regardless, I don’t believe you’re intentionally trying to be offensive. (You’re right there, why don’t you tell me.)[/quote]
Have you ever played insult sword-fighting? If it seems my replays are more offensive than the posts I am replaying to, perhaps it’s because I’m doing it better.
Where others see insulting or acerbic, I see whimsical (the poem), culturally different, amusingly obtuse or socially insensitive due to social customs. But, then, I tend to live in the clouds and always see the best of intentions. I, also, know from experience that some social customs can be incredibly offensive to people that don't expect them. In some countries friends punch one another, or embrace, or do both and in some countries they call each other by vulgar names. (Certain cities in Mexico and America are prime examples of the latter.)What country are you from, anyway?
There you go. It’s not that I’m offensive, it’s them who are intolerant. My country? I’m the Amazing Driver-Man, I’m from the Internet.
Me too, after reading those last few posts. Chiefly at the fact that anyone is still taking you halfway seriously. I don’t care about your mod at all, friend. Good luck with it.
[quote=“kilozombie, post:366, topic:528”]Lazycat’s grammar is not wrong, but I do feel like his intentions are skewed.
I feel that he comes across as a mobster with a machine gun, breaking down doors because people don’t play his house rules in Monopoly, and shooting anybody who doesn’t immediately play their game by his rules.
I know that’s not what you intend at all, but I feel that it’s what I should take from all this, and what I should use as a metaphor. You are
actively insulting people for being part of the status quo.
Nobody feels better about it, and in addition, most people feel excluded or alarmed.[/quote]
I had to stop here for a moment, because as soon as I read “alarmed” I imagined a giant [size=12pt]![/size] floating over someone’s head. LOL
It's what turned me off your mod, and partly why some devs are strongly against putting a lot of your changes into mainline. You've done some [b][i]great[/i][/b] things with your mod, but you're pushing people away left and right- it can't be the good way around this.
And yet, despite all of it, many of his ideas and changes are being, and have been, added to the main branch.
The only thing ridiculous about it is that it is actually true. Try it and see for yourself.
The only thing ridiculous about it is that it is actually true. Try it and see for yourself.[/quote]
Can you not see how such statements are over the top, insulting to the other devs, ego filled, and unproductive?
A modicum of humility would highly advance your agenda.
No, you just haven’t tried it. You simply do not know.
Damn, I haven’t felt this much pressure since I took the Pepsi Challenge.
[quote=“Vorpal2, post:375, topic:528”]Can you not see how such statements are over the top, insulting to the other devs, ego filled, and unproductive?
A modicum of humility would highly advance your agenda.[/quote]
Hey, I’m the Amazing Driver-Man. I’m too amazing to be humble. Can’t you see your anger is clouding your ability to be objective and differentiate between true and false? I’m either right or wrong, that’s the only thing that really matters.
You ought to be more tolerant, accept me for who I am. Now love me, love me I tell ya!
Here’s an idea, I will actually take an hour or so to try this, if in return, I see some form of reasonable discourse that doesn’t user over the top comparisons and language, and an apology for the insults, the condescending attitude, and general lowering of the level of the conversation and discourse.
If I see an actual reasonable apology and admission, I encourage everyone who has been turned off by Lazycat to accept this, and try the mod, and provide polite and honest feedback.
[quote=“LazyCat, post:378, topic:528”]Hey, I’m the Amazing Driver-Man. I’m too amazing to be humble. Can’t you see your anger is clouding your ability to be objective and differentiate between true and false? I’m either right or wrong, that’s the only thing that really matters.
You ought to be more tolerant, accept me for who I am. Now love me, love me I tell ya![/quote]
Although…I don’t know how likely this is.
Sharks can smell blood in the water up to a mile away. Never give in to peer pressure. >_>