Tips, Tricks, and Newb Questions!

[Laughing_Fool]

@deoxy

[quote=“Random_dragon, post:7636, topic:42”]I did think that was a derpy benefit, compared to fast strikes. I need to see if the other benefits of ninjutsu are really worth picking over krav maga. owo

Ninjitsu gets fast strikes. The silent strikes thing is just gravy (if you’ve also got light step, you can ghost around pretty well in the dark, though, killing zombies 3 steps from other zombies without them noticing, which can be nice). The real reason ninjitsu is stupid awesome and more OP than Krav maga?

Double damage with edged weapons.

Seriously, criting for 200+ damage with a katana, or quick striking for 40-50… yeah, squish. I can stand in open and face a horde of anything but spitters and shockers and kill them as fast as the come. Even hulks, usually (“usually” meaning “usually killing them without taking a hit”). Without bloody moving. In the open. It’s crazy.

Dielectric CBM, a gas mask, a halfway decent edged weapon (machete is sufficient), and the only zombie that gets your attention is the spitter. Nothing else is worth breaking stride for, much less being worried about.

I play on 20X monster spawn, and once the spitters are dead, enormous clumps of zombies are annoying for the tedium of butchering, nothing more. No fear, not even any equipment damage. I’m thinking about restarting without ninjutsu, just because it’s so brokenly overpowered.[/quote]

That seems worth 3 points. I just made a character with ninjutsu and found a katana in a pawn shop. But all I do is rapid strike with it, do I need certain level of melee weapons to do the double damage critical?

[Noodles_of_Doom]

@Laughing Fool

That seems worth 3 points. I just made a character with ninjutsu and found a katana in a pawn shop. But all I do is rapid strike with it, do I need certain level of melee weapons to do the double damage critical?

The wiki doesn’t say anything about weapon skill increasing critical hit frequency, but dexterity has a huge impact. At 13 dex you get a 75% crit chance, and at 18 dex you receive a 100% crit chance.

[Arek_PL]

@Laughing Fool

Night vision could be useful, but how self defense training for 3 points is better than 3 points in strength?

aditional 4 points with strenght do not give you 150+ damage with weak bladed weapon

@Noodles of Doom

[quote=“Laughing Fool, post:7642, topic:42”]That seems worth 3 points. I just made a character with ninjutsu and found a katana in a pawn shop. But all I do is rapid strike with it, do I need certain level of melee weapons to do the double damage critical?

The wiki doesn’t say anything about weapon skill increasing critical hit frequency, but dexterity has a huge impact. At 13 dex you get a 75% crit chance, and at 18 dex you receive a 100% crit chance.[/quote]
i think some level in mele and cutting (something about 4 or 5) should make surprise attacks happen more commonly too (imagine critical surprise attack if regular one do 150+ damage and pulp dogs on 1 hit)

[Laughing_Fool]

Is there a way not to get flu or influenza every 3 days? I take vitamins every time I eat something but it doesn’t seem to work.

[John_Candlebury]

Theres the flu vaccine to never get the flu again, and you can wear a gasmask perpetually to negate the chances of getting sick.

[Random_dragon]

Hmm, I need to toy around with ninjutsu further.

[deoxy]

@i2amroy

[quote=“Noodles of Doom, post:7619, topic:42”][quote=“deoxy, post:7617, topic:42”]So, I found a 7x7 square of rebar and rock covered dirt on a road. ??.. Any ideas what this is or what caused it? There’s road all the way around it. It’s right next to a school, if that matters…

I’ve seen these strange formations as well… it may be a sign from the RNG gods. Maybe a chicken walker died and the resulting explosion created a hole in the road???[/quote]
Two big possibilities:

1. It’s a crater and is highly radioactive. Nothing else is special about it.
2. It’s an artifact spawning location. Dig out the center and you’ll find an artifact. These ones often do weird things like pulsing with acid too.[/quote]

Well, it’s radiation level 32 (checked with geiger counter), and I dug a pit (not a deep pit) in the center, and it had no artifact…

I’ve found artifacts before, and they in the middle of rubble, not rocks and rebar. It’s strange.

[i2amroy]

Then it’s a map special radioactive crater. They are literally just intended to represent a spot where a small nuclear bomb went off, nothing else special about them.

[deoxy]

@i2amroy

Then it’s a map special radioactive crater. They are literally just intended to represent a spot where a small nuclear bomb went off, nothing else special about them.

Ah - cool thanks.

(or perhaps “HOT” thanks, ha ha. A little radioactive humor…)

[Random_dragon]

Hmm. Okay, quick strikes from Ninjutsu are nice and OP just like Krav Maga. Seems kukuri is off limits though, I’m only getting the silent strikes.

EDIT: Small error, it seems even unarmed I’m not getting reliable quick strikes. >.>

},{
    "type" : "martial_art",
    "id" : "style_ninjutsu",
    "name" : "Ninjutsu",
    "description" : "Ninjutsu is a martial art and set of tactics used by ninja in feudal Japan. It focuses on rapid, precise, silent strikes. Ninjutsu is almost entirely silent. It also provides small combat bonuses every time you move.",
    "arm_block" : 3,
    "leg_block" : 99,
    "static_buffs" : [
        {
            "id" : "ninjutsu_static",
            "name" : "Ninjutsu",
            "unarmed_allowed" : true,
            "melee_allowed" : true,
            "quiet" : true,
            "description" : "Silent melee attacks"
        }
    ],
    "onmove_buffs" : [
        {
            "id" : "ninjutsu_momentum",
            "name" : "Momentum shift",
            "description" : "Bonus dodges and increased to-hit",
            "unarmed_allowed" : true,
            "melee_allowed" : true,
            "buff_duration" : 2,
            "max_stacks" : 1,
            "bonus_dodges" : 1,
            "hit_dex" : 0.17
        }
    ],
    "techniques" : ["tec_ninjutsu_precise"]
},{

},{
    "type" : "martial_art",
    "id" : "style_krav_maga",
    "name" : "Krav Maga",
    "description" : "Originating in Israel, Krav Maga is based on taking down an enemy quickly and effectively. It focuses on applicable attacks rather than showy or complex moves. Popular among police and armed forces everywhere.",
    "arm_block" : 2,
    "leg_block" : 4,
    "static_buffs" : [
        {
            "id" : "krav_maga_static",
            "name" : "Krav Maga Hand-to-Hand",
            "unarmed_allowed" : true,
            "min_unarmed" : 0,
            "bash_str" : 0.15,
            "description" : "Increased unarmed power"
        },{
            "id" : "krav_maga_static_edged",
            "name" : "Krav Maga Edged",
            "melee_allowed" : true,
            "min_unarmed" : 0,
            "cut_mult" : 1.2,
            "description" : "Increased cutting damage"
        }
    ],
    "techniques" : [
        "tec_krav_maga_rapid",
        "tec_krav_maga_feint",
        "tec_krav_maga_precise",
        "tec_krav_maga_disarm",
        "tec_krav_maga_grab"
    ]
},{

[deoxy]

[quote=“Random_dragon, post:7651, topic:42”]Hmm. Okay, quick strikes from Ninjutsu are nice and OP just like Krav Maga. Seems kukuri is off limits though, I’m only getting the silent strikes.

EDIT: Small error, it seems even unarmed I’m not getting reliable quick strikes. >.>[/quote]

Hmm, not sure what to tell you there - with 12 dex and 3ish unarmed, I generally get either surpised/crit or quick strike.

[Random_dragon]

It seems that Ninjutsu does not affect attack speed actually. >w>

EDIT: Moar Code.

},{
    "type" : "technique",
    "id" : "tec_krav_maga_rapid",
    "name" : "quick punch",
    "min_unarmed" : 2,
    "unarmed_allowed" : true,
    "messages" : [
        "You quickly punch %s",
        "<npcname> quickly punches %s"
    ],
    "speed_mult" : 0.5,
    "bash_mult" : 0.66,
    "cut_mult" : 0.66
},{

This, and more importantly the fact it doesn’t have the “is a critical hit” or other effects that restrict it, means it goes off all the time if you have 2 unarmed skill. This is also mainly my only exception to being leery of faster-yet-weaker hits. 3:

[deoxy]

[quote=“Random_dragon, post:7653, topic:42”]It seems that Ninjutsu does not affect attack speed actually. >w>

EDIT: Moar Code.

},{
    "type" : "technique",
    "id" : "tec_krav_maga_rapid",
    "name" : "quick punch",
    "min_unarmed" : 2,
    "unarmed_allowed" : true,
    "messages" : [
        "You quickly punch %s",
        "<npcname> quickly punches %s"
    ],
    "speed_mult" : 0.5,
    "bash_mult" : 0.66,
    "cut_mult" : 0.66
},{

This, and more importantly the fact it doesn’t have the “is a critical hit” or other effects that restrict it, means it goes off all the time if you have 2 unarmed skill. This is also mainly my only exception to being leery of faster-yet-weaker hits. 3:[/quote]

OK, I haven’t done any code diving, but I can tell you that I get “you quickly strike XXX” messages VERY often, and that, when I do, I can get in several strikes before they strike me once.

Different topic: “NOBODY DROPS MAIAR INTO LAVA” message… ??? weird… Are there any more of these (I’ll keep looking), or is it a one-off?

[Random_dragon]

@deoxy

OK, I haven’t done any code diving, but I can tell you that I get “you quickly strike XXX” messages VERY often, and that, when I do, I can get in several strikes before they strike me once.

Weird. I’m on one of the recent experimentals, so it’s unlikley to be recent changes, but the basic Ninjutsu effect is only when you move, and doesn’t grant a speed bonus. Meanwhile the only technique is a crit effect.

[i2amroy]

@deoxy

Different topic: “NOBODY DROPS MAIAR INTO LAVA” message… ??? weird… Are there any more of these (I’ll keep looking), or is it a one-off?

I’m almost certain I saw that in the code recently, but I can’t seem to find it again.

[Coolthulhu]

@i2amroy

I’m almost certain I saw that in the code recently, but I can’t seem to find it again.

It’s in lab notes json.

[i2amroy]

Ah, thank you.

[Laughing_Fool]

@Random_dragon

[quote=“deoxy, post:7654, topic:42”]OK, I haven’t done any code diving, but I can tell you that I get “you quickly strike XXX” messages VERY often, and that, when I do, I can get in several strikes before they strike me once.

Weird. I’m on one of the recent experimentals, so it’s unlikley to be recent changes, but the basic Ninjutsu effect is only when you move, and doesn’t grant a speed bonus. Meanwhile the only technique is a crit effect.[/quote]

Probably his weapon giving him rapid strike technique. Ninjutsu only has upgraded precise attack called surprise attack dealing 200% dmg which requires 3 unarmed to work for both melee and unarmed. That, silent strikes and the dodge and to hit buff on movement makes ninjutsu quite worth the 3 points.

[Pyrite]

If I have two characters in the same world, and they come to the same place, how dies that work? Will each just disappear while the other is loaded? How does this work with the passage of time in a world?

[Valpo]

Both chars only exist in the world while they are loaded.
Unless one of them dies and therefor become a part of the world istelf they may never meet.