Just wondering. Is it because it’ll be labour-intensive to give block techs to all long firearms now, is it due to balance, or what?

I don’t know, but it sounds like a cool idea. Buttstock and bayonette attacks would also be great.

Bayonets are already in, and buttstocks would be normal melee “walk into the enemy” attacks without one, I suppose.

Found out its rather easy to make every long firearms to have a block ability by simply editing the most basic of its abstracts. The only problem though is that I can’t make a mod out of it without breaking everything it seems, gotta edit the files themselves.

I wonder if its actually balance driven, or if its more due to difficulties with durability. More specifically, just having something wail on the side of a modern rifle is pretty liable to fuck it up - Zombies are fairly strong, and special variants or people with weapons even moreso. But making the…

Yeah. I can see that. If blocking was automatic as before it would surely break the rifle, especially the more modern ones with more complicated bits not meant to be rattled by melee hits. But all the balancing it does is to make a low-dodge surv be much worse getting attacked in melee, its not like…

Modern rifles are still pretty tough and they could hold up to quite a bit of melee combat in my opinion. The magazine might get dislodged or a scope might become misaligned, but the rest of it would be unlikely to be destroyed unless it was used in a very unconventional manner.

Considering blocking regular zombies can damage solid steel swords, the possibility of bending the barrel at the trunion is not off the table. Its worth keeping in mind that Bayonet Fighting is considered a last resort with modern rifles, so even the ability to stand up to that is more “If required”…

It sounds like the problem is that zombies have gained superhuman abilities to bend swords and other solid objects. Bodies absorb a lot of energy. While those handguards could be broken, it is highly unlikely that they would do more than crack and stay put. If the gas system was damaged the weapon c…

[image] je55eah: It sounds like the problem is that zombies have gained superhuman abilities to bend swords and other solid objects Yes, they’re pretty terrifying at times. The normal versions are reasonably strong, and the tough ones are already full on high athletic humans. They’re a reanim…

I own a well crafted sword and it springs back to form readily. Cheaper swords will bend with considerable force, but it will not actually ruin them. decorative swords will bend readily. a gun barrel is on the rigid en of the spectrum, but they are far from easy to bend and then you may get somethin…

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