# Zombies Do Not Break Down Doors 9467b8c
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-do-not-break-down-doors-9467b8c/7773
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [November 6, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-do-not-break-down-doors-9467b8c/7773 "2014-11-06T00:55:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-do-not-break-down-doors-9467b8c/7773/1 "2014-11-06T00:55:30Z")
after a thousand turns, tough zombie does not damage door, I halfway broke the door myself so it could get a look at me, the _whump_ is me hitting the wall to give a reference to how much time has passed (note the coughing)
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### Author:  [@TheFlame52](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheFlame52)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-do-not-break-down-doors-9467b8c/7773/2 "2014-11-06T01:03:13Z")
Yeah, I think this has been there a while. These zombies are lazy.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 1:10am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-do-not-break-down-doors-9467b8c/7773/3 "2014-11-06T01:10:46Z")
Wow so now there’s literally no threat if you stand behind a halfway broken door good job devs
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### Author:  [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 1:27am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-do-not-break-down-doors-9467b8c/7773/4 "2014-11-06T01:27:27Z")
> [@Void Space](#):
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> Wow so now there’s literally no threat if you stand behind a halfway broken door good job devs
It takes time for a single zed to break down a door, stronger zombies get through faster as do multiple zombies.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 1:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-do-not-break-down-doors-9467b8c/7773/5 "2014-11-06T01:31:48Z")
> [@EkarusRyndren](#):
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> [quote=“Void Space, post:3, topic:7773”]Wow so now there’s literally no threat if you stand behind a halfway broken door good job devs
It takes time for a single zed to break down a door, stronger zombies get through faster as do multiple zombies.[/quote]
the zombie made no effort to break down the door whatsoever after a 1000 turns even with me banging around and in visual radius of it
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### Author:  [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-do-not-break-down-doors-9467b8c/7773/6 "2014-11-06T01:36:46Z")
> [@Void Space](#):
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> [quote=“EkarusRyndren, post:4, topic:7773”][quote=“Void Space, post:3, topic:7773”]Wow so now there’s literally no threat if you stand behind a halfway broken door good job devs
It takes time for a single zed to break down a door, stronger zombies get through faster as do multiple zombies.[/quote]
the zombie made no effort to break down the door whatsoever after a 1000 turns even with me banging around and in visual radius of it[/quote]
Debug yourself a watch and wait five minutes, 1000 turns isn’t all that much time… …don’t think at least. A “short” wait is 300 “heartbeats” without a watch so…
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### Author:  [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 3:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-do-not-break-down-doors-9467b8c/7773/7 "2014-11-06T03:50:01Z")
So far we’re thinking something went missing in the wall-basher update, specifically zeds’ ability to effectively bash doors. (By itself, one zed isn’t capable of destroying a door. Needs at least two. We’re thinking that they don’t target/stack up effectively ATM.)
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 3:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-do-not-break-down-doors-9467b8c/7773/8 "2014-11-06T03:54:47Z")
oh okay im glad i havent just gone crazy. I had a zombie and fat zombie outside a door and was smashing everything in the house to get them riled up, waited 24 hours, pausing to punch things, still the door of durin held…
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### Author:  [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 5:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-do-not-break-down-doors-9467b8c/7773/9 "2014-11-06T05:59:48Z")
Yea, the typical door is configured to prevent lone zombies from being capable of bashing it, but groups have a mob up effect that helps. The problem is they’re a bit too smart about not bothering when they know they can’t do it.
I’m looking at factoring in group bashing to the decision making, but it might be better to just make them a bit dumber, and they’d bash anything that got in their way.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 7:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-do-not-break-down-doors-9467b8c/7773/10 "2014-11-06T07:38:10Z")
minor separate but related, might want to give tough zombies the ability to break down the door alone since they are afterall, tough
though i suppose it gets philosophical after awhile, tough in what way? tough of limb? of will? (or lack thereof)? a grittier zombie who grew up in the brainless mean streets of a heavily barricaded neighborhood?