# Zombie Grenadiers are grenade proof

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombie-grenadiers-are-grenade-proof/16448>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [September 1, 2018, 9:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombie-grenadiers-are-grenade-proof/16448 "2018-09-01T09:29:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![latogato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9bd4f/32.png) [@latogato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/latogato)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 9:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombie-grenadiers-are-grenade-proof/16448/1 "2018-09-01T09:29:39Z")

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Version: 7813  
OS: Win 7 64 bit  
Mods: “dda”, “filthy\_morale”, “More\_Survival\_Tools”, “mutant\_npcs”, “npc\_traits”

I threw grenade at two zombie grenadiers in a lab barrack. I hid, but after the explosion i found them unharmed. I reloaded the game and tried again with the same results. So i reloaded again and stayed close to see what happens. Every one of us was just few tiles away from the grenade, but because i was next to the door i saw only one of them.

You are hit by an immese number of bomb fragments, dealing 399 damage!  
The zombie grenadier is hit by an immense number of bomb framgents, but they deal no damage.

I stepped in to see the other grenadier, it was lightly injured. The next second a grenade hack exploded into my face and the grenadiers few tiles away survived that too. I was not in the shape to check their health this time.

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**Author:** ![TheMurderUnicorn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/themurderunicorn/32/5706_2.png) [@TheMurderUnicorn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheMurderUnicorn)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 9:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombie-grenadiers-are-grenade-proof/16448/2 "2018-09-01T09:31:26Z")

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I don’t know that this is why, but if I were making the game I’d make the grenadiers grenade proof to prevent them from constantly killing themselves.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombie-grenadiers-are-grenade-proof/16448/3 "2018-09-01T23:24:42Z")

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I’ll take a look, I tuned grenade fragments to be stopped by fairly heavy armor, and grenadier zombies don’t qualify.

That reminds me, I was gonna nerf grenade hacks, because they’re supposed to be some teeny little flying bomb, not a full sized hand grenade. _Should_ be a change in player’s favor considering how lethal genadiers are now.

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**Author:** ![Axema](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/axema/32/10822_2.png) [@Axema](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Axema)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 12:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombie-grenadiers-are-grenade-proof/16448/4 "2018-09-02T00:54:01Z")

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> [@latogato](#):
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> a grenade hack

I don’t encounter much grenadiers in the game but you should be careful. Hack the grenade hacks with control laptop and (e)xamine it to take it as your item. Do this frequently until there’s no more grenade stocks in their pockets.

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**Author:** ![latogato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9bd4f/32.png) [@latogato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/latogato)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombie-grenadiers-are-grenade-proof/16448/5 "2018-09-02T16:57:16Z")

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I always forget this, my characters most of the time are melee hackers but somehow i always forget this feature.

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**Author:** ![Axema](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/axema/32/10822_2.png) [@Axema](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Axema)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 8:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombie-grenadiers-are-grenade-proof/16448/6 "2018-09-03T08:32:14Z")

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Same problem with me. I got to kill them by vehicle collision when I still don’t have a control laptop ☹
