# Z-level issue
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/z-level-issue/14178
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [August 26, 2017, 11:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/z-level-issue/14178 "2017-08-26T11:25:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@TheKobold](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheKobold)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2017, 11:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/z-level-issue/14178/1 "2017-08-26T11:25:03Z")
I have all the Z level stuff active. Was in a basement sleeping when a companion got up and speared a zombie on the lever above.
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### Author:  [@nick0010](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/nick0010)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/z-level-issue/14178/2 "2017-08-28T18:06:25Z")
Z-levels are only half (quarter) implemented. They exist but dont integrate well with anything. This leads to weird shit happening, like mi-gos being heard underground through 4 floors of concrete. (at least the last experimental i played)
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### Author:  [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/z-level-issue/14178/3 "2017-08-28T18:12:32Z")
> [@TheKobold](#):
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> I have all the Z level stuff active. Was in a basement sleeping when a companion got up and speared a zombie on the lever above.
I think you may have 3d vision on as well.
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### Author:  [@NuG](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NuG)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/z-level-issue/14178/4 "2017-08-28T20:07:09Z")
Yeah if you turn off experimental 3d vision, but leave z-levels on, that will stop happening. It’s an unfinished feature, so that seems to happen. I once tried it and had an NPC just shoot all his arrows at the ground trying to hit something in the subway(i guess) below. It confused me a first. I could draw him away give him his arrows back and would forget about the spot, but every damn time we went by there he would just unload lol, I eventually turned it off, but leave z-levels on. Sometimes you will be crafting and it will say something it spotted or approaching, but it’s actually not… it’s just on the upper or lower level.
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### Author:  [@Rising\_Star](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rising_Star)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/z-level-issue/14178/5 "2017-08-29T00:39:26Z")
This is awesome, and made me immediately picture one of [these guys](http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Knight) stabbing their spear up through the floor. I’m trying to figure out how that would be implemented on purpose - maybe with a soft or porous enough material between levels ad a reach weapon. It’d make for some nasty ambushes.
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### Author:  [@TheKobold](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheKobold)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/z-level-issue/14178/6 "2017-08-29T01:31:55Z")
> [@NuG](#):
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> Yeah if you turn off experimental 3d vision, but leave z-levels on, that will stop happening. It’s an unfinished feature, so that seems to happen. I once tried it and had an NPC just shoot all his arrows at the ground trying to hit something in the subway(i guess) below. It confused me a first. I could draw him away give him his arrows back and would forget about the spot, but every damn time we went by there he would just unload lol, I eventually turned it off, but leave z-levels on. Sometimes you will be crafting and it will say something it spotted or approaching, but it’s actually not… it’s just on the upper or lower level.
I forgot about that, happened the last time I used it too if I remember correctly.