# Wow, so this game is actually screen reader accessible?

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [September 18, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380 "2019-09-18T02:31:56Z")
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### Author: ![Kenan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e495f1/32.png) [@Kenan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kenan)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380/1 "2019-09-18T02:31:56Z")

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So i recently started to get interested in accessibility in games in general, of course, finding that the most accessible games are text MUDs and ASCII Roguelikes, any games which involve lots of text input/output in general, i played CDDA for a long time before that but only recently reading some topics on reddit found out that it is also accessible with screen readers

Judging by the description of 0.D, some updates were made to make the screen reader work in a better way, of course considering the Windows console version still does not work (might need some clarification), if it at least works on Linux console (judging from what i’ve heard), then this is one of the most freaking amazing things in gaming, seriously

I really wish that i could get a reply from Kevin Granade or some players who use screen reader to play it, i know it is still a mess with some versions on Linux not working at all, not even sure if Windows console works, but this is truly inspiring and just AWEsome

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### Author: ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2019, 4:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380/2 "2019-09-18T04:57:22Z")

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I’m not sure what the question you want answered is, the curses version is fundamentally fairly accessible, and we’ve done some adjustments to make things more accessible based on feedback from screen reader users.

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### Author: ![\_k1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/_k1/32/1335_2.png) [@\_k1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/_k1)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2019, 7:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380/3 "2019-09-18T07:23:01Z")

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Is there a way to make a text screenshot?

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### Author: ![Kenan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e495f1/32.png) [@Kenan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kenan)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2019, 8:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380/4 "2019-09-18T08:08:27Z")

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Thank you for reply, Kevin, i truly appreciate your work and dedication, so the Windows curses version works now as well?  
Because apparently back in the day it did not work at all with screen readers but only the Linux versions did

You are really awesome because, well, this is actually may be going into history of accessibility of games, such deep and extremely complex game (i kinda even lost my love to Fallout after finding this gem) - and you guys actually made a lot of effort to make it properly accessible, that is truly awesome

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### Author: ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380/5 "2019-09-18T23:56:00Z")

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Windows is problematic, because the _terminal_ build is only pseudo-curses, and I have no idea if windows screen readers can read it correctly, and even if they can, performance is perversely worse than the SDL build.

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### Author: ![Zhilkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zhilkin/32/3749_2.png) [@Zhilkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zhilkin)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380/6 "2019-09-19T18:45:53Z")

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You can just select all and copy from terminal session.

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### Author: ![\_k1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/_k1/32/1335_2.png) [@\_k1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/_k1)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380/7 "2019-09-20T07:50:33Z")

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I can’t select with mouse or right-click and select all. Terminal on Ubuntu.

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### Author: ![Zhilkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zhilkin/32/3749_2.png) [@Zhilkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zhilkin)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2019, 10:41am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380/8 "2019-09-20T10:41:16Z")

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Try different Terminal.

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### Author: ![\_k1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/_k1/32/1335_2.png) [@\_k1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/_k1)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380/9 "2019-09-20T13:00:20Z")

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Different terminal? Do I need to set a different font? When I used to play on Windows I couldn’t select and copy either.

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### Author: ![Zhilkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zhilkin/32/3749_2.png) [@Zhilkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zhilkin)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2019, 7:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380/10 "2019-09-21T07:13:21Z")

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When you are running curses version, it is run inside of some Terminal emulator software (and there are a lot of them - see [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_terminal\_emulators](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terminal_emulators)). I don’t know which one you are using and can’t tell you why you can’t select text there.

As stated above, Windows Terminal (curses) version is only pseudo curses and it does not probably allow text selection.

Tiles (SDL) versions on any platform obviously also does not allow text selection.

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### Author: ![\_k1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/_k1/32/1335_2.png) [@\_k1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/_k1)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2019, 7:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wow-so-this-game-is-actually-screen-reader-accessible/21380/11 "2019-09-21T07:18:30Z")

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Thanks. I start the game with the “./cataclysm” command in system terminal.
