# Why are artifacts dispensed by the game as if they're prizes?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [September 8, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495 "2015-09-08T21:36:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Thwap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4af34b/32.png) [@Thwap](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Thwap)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495/1 "2015-09-08T21:36:14Z")

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I think in my entire time with the game I’ve found exactly one artifact that was worth keeping around and using in small doses. The last one I found hurt me for just going near it, and the one before that hurt to pick up and summoned shadows to attack me when used.

At this point I don’t even go out of my way to find them. I just stumble over them, pick them up, and promptly throw them away once I start taking damage or going radioactive or whatever. If the vehicle additions mod didn’t add a reason to want vortex stones, I’d never enter a mine at all.

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**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495/2 "2015-09-08T22:11:46Z")

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Because they’re a gamble. Their rarity means you get infinitely more fucked over by bad results, but good artifacts are always possible.

I still wish artifact proprties were JSONized though, then we could abuse them further in mods.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495/3 "2015-09-08T22:43:57Z")

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You’re reading intent where there is none, artifacts are random, the end.  
They aren’t a reward or a prize, they just exist.

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**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495/4 "2015-09-08T23:13:07Z")

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They are technically rewards at the end of temples and mines, or at least a potential incentive to clear it.

And now to derail the thread by pestering you about how easy JSONizing them would be. ;w;

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 5:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495/5 "2015-09-09T05:22:39Z")

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[Technically,](https://xkcd.com/1475/)

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**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 5:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495/6 "2015-09-09T05:34:18Z")

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I still think of them as a POTENTIAL reward. They might be good, they might be bad. That’s the Fun, really.

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**Author:** ![Shopkeeper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/shopkeeper/32/453_2.png) [@Shopkeeper](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Shopkeeper)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 6:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495/7 "2015-09-09T06:14:58Z")

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Yep, I’ve gotten nothing out of artifacts but tons of !FUN! and yet I still keep collecting the damned things like an extra-dimensional trinket horder. Maybe because each one is effectively a unique item and that’s a cool concept to see in game.

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**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 6:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495/8 "2015-09-09T06:28:31Z")

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They’re still delicious.

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**Author:** ![Logrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/logrin/32/209_2.png) [@Logrin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Logrin)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:36am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495/9 "2015-09-09T09:36:39Z")

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The only real base I ever did was walling off an Amigara fault and tunneling stairs up the surface. Parked my car over-top, chopped down some trees to make it homey and catalogued the good stuff.

Because I ended up with more duds than ‘this belongs in a museum’ finds I became something of a relic eater thanks to internal furnace.

Sometimes you get something great though. Like ‘mind control a whole horde into tearing each other apart’ great.

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**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 3:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495/10 "2015-09-09T15:28:13Z")

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> [@Logrin](#):
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> Because I ended up with more duds than ‘this belongs in a museum’ finds I became something of a relic eater thanks to internal furnace.

I didn’t mean my last post literally. ;A;

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**Author:** ![Arek\_PL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b77776/32.png) [@Arek\_PL](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Arek_PL)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-artifacts-dispensed-by-the-game-as-if-theyre-prizes/10495/11 "2015-09-16T17:16:29Z")

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some artefacts are realy nice one time i had sphere what summoned big fies at cost of little radiation