# Who's got the most mana?

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whos-got-the-most-mana/23497
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [May 1, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whos-got-the-most-mana/23497 "2020-05-01T22:56:11Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author: ![Ragno](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ragno/32/5935_2.png) [@Ragno](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ragno)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whos-got-the-most-mana/23497/21 "2020-05-10T14:59:29Z")

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most of the things i have found, are either in academies or dragon lairs, the best things i have found in wizard towers are some spell scrolls, and most of the times are ones for classes i dont use or duplicate ones

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### Author: ![Grimm\_Spector](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/grimm_spector/32/5132_2.png) [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whos-got-the-most-mana/23497/22 "2020-05-10T15:46:14Z")

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> [@Segertas](#):
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> Speaking of artifacts, I really want to get my hands on that damn belt of weaponry, haven’t looked it up to avoid spoiling myself but it can probably store multiple weapons at once or doesn’t add the weight of stored weapons.

I have a belt of weaponry, I won’t spoil it, but it’s pretty nice. Though it’s now eating items in the latest experimentals …

> [@Ragno](#):
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> And thanks on the info that those buffs stacks duration, i knew of the grotesque enhancement, but not of the others

That makes two of us!

> [@mentos046](#):
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> How are you guys finding all this good stuff? The first Wizard Tower I went through had like 17 plastic golems, no accessories, and no non-entertainment books except one copy of Eat Your Way to a Fit Physique at the very top. The second one was about six overmap tiles from a sulfurous anthill and had 3-4 plastic Golems and a hacksaw. For a while I was convinced Wizard Towers were one of those locations designed to teach you that not every semi-dangerous area has good loot.

Several towers, I’ve raided like 6 towers and an academy. Just luck, some literally have nothing useful, some have awesome stuff.

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### Author: ![Segertas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/segertas/32/8757_2.png) [@Segertas](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Segertas)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2020, 12:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whos-got-the-most-mana/23497/23 "2020-05-11T12:09:41Z")

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> [@Ragno](#):
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> how does it work? i mean the chrages, does it regen as an artifact?

Yup heat cube regens (and is categorized as an artifact as well), it has 60 charges and every use such as heating food or starting a fire only uses 1. I’ve never had it go below 50.

> [@mentos046](#):
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> How are you guys finding all this good stuff? The first Wizard Tower

Let me stop you right there, Wizard Towers will consistently spit on your hopes and dreams.

Though the Wizard Towers with a more standard home layout and steel walls you need a torch for have had good artifact RNG for me, found 2 enchanted tailor’s kit and a heat cube and only visited maybe ~7 of those. Might be coincidental, might not be. Also they were all in the bedroom closets rather than at the top.

- Tier 1 locations (as Ragno mentioned) are Dragon Lairs and Academies
- Tier 2 location would be the Magic Shop (really rare and only found 1 so far, but good loot)
- Tier 3 location is in my opinion the Wizard Basements. They often contain multiple books/scrolls, wands and lower tier ‘almost artifacts’ like the ‘Mask of Perfect Vision’.  
Every single of these houses have the exact same and completely unique to them layout. Once you learn that you’ll be able to instantly spot them whilst driving by.
- Tier 4 goes to bookstores, they contain relatively little loot but there is always at least 2 books or scrolls.
- Tier 5 is where Wizard Towers belong. With bad (average?) RNG you wont get a single spell.
- Tier 6 Magic Cabins. This one I’m less sure about as I’ve only explored 1, but it had a single wand of minor fireball and nothing else.

This tier list is solely based on my own experiences but I’ve probably looted 20+ towers, 10+ basements, 5+ bookstores, 2 academies, 2 dragon lairs, 1 magic shop and 1 magic cabin.

> [@Ragno](#):
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> the best things i have found in wizard towers are some spell scrolls

Besides the artifacts in the rarer alternative layout, I’ve found a few lower tier rings

> [@Ragno](#):
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> And thanks on the info that those buffs stacks duration

> [@Grimm\_Spector](#):
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> That makes two of us!

What really makes Synaptic Stimulation so awesome is that since it increases your mana pool your regen is boosted too so it off-sets its own cost a bit. Just continuously casting it to avoid wasting mana regen by sitting on a full pool will let it build up more and more time.

I haven’t lost the buff even once for many in game days, must be running around with a 12+ hours excess since sleeping is never enough to remove it. At ~3k mana (with synaptic boost) and lowest tier mana regen I was able to keep it up permanently (but I only regained its mana cost by the time it was about to expire), now with 6-7k mana and second tier mana regen its cost is returned to me long before the duration has faded.

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