# Where do you even find surgeons?
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [March 9, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058 "2021-03-09T21:05:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 16
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### Author:  [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/1 "2021-03-09T21:05:46Z")
In all my playthroughs I have never once found a surgeon to install my bionics. Where on earth do you find them?
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### Author:  [@BenJoneWert](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BenJoneWert)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/2 "2021-03-09T22:14:55Z")
我也从来没有找到过
但…外科医生不是没有，在无数个npc内“万里挑一”实在是过于概率性…
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### Author:  [@Wayland](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wayland)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/3 "2021-03-10T02:27:15Z")
Google translate:
I never found it
But… it’s not that there are surgeons. It’s too probabilistic to “choose one in a million” among countless NPCs…
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### Author:  [@BenJoneWert](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BenJoneWert)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2021, 4:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/4 "2021-03-10T04:42:07Z")
My dear friends, maybe we should try to use Google and Microsoft browsers with built-in web page automatic translation, just choose the language you can read. Fast, convenient, I’m using it!
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### Author:  [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2021, 10:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/5 "2021-03-10T10:08:26Z")
> [@BenJoneWert](#):
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> maybe we should try to use Google and Microsoft browsers
or maybe we should not
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### Author:  [@Wayland](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wayland)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/6 "2021-03-10T13:24:47Z")
Using the Discourse iOS app, doesn’t do translations.
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### Author:  [@mmekaru](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mmekaru)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/7 "2021-03-10T13:27:13Z")
I think the only way is to use an Autodoc .-. IIRC there are no surgeons in the game, unless there are some in that vault full of irradiated wanderers when visited via quest
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### Author:  [@Mantar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mantar)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/8 "2021-03-10T17:34:27Z")
Microsoft Edge is just reskinned a Chromium engine, as is modern Opera. There are really only two browser engines left, Mozilla and Chromium. We’re heading back into the bad old days of web standards, now with “well, it works on IE!” replaced with “well, it works on Chrome!”
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### Author:  [@HYPOs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HYPOs)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/9 "2021-03-10T21:52:34Z")
I remember that there was a doctor in one of my games at the upgraded ranch (after finishing some nurse missions). I did have aftershock enabled, but you can try to check there.
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### Author:  [@hydroplatypus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/hydroplatypus)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/10 "2021-03-11T02:25:49Z")
It definately used to be there, as I remember getting that NPC after finishing a quest for the ranch. Haven’t played that questline in a while though, so no idea if they are still there
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### Author:  [@PALU](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/PALU)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2021, 7:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/11 "2021-03-11T07:54:40Z")
Status in 0.E2 stable:
There’s a doctor at the Tacoma ranch (once sufficiently upgraded) and one in the refugee center. However, neither is described as a surgeon. I haven’t tried to talk to either of them when carrying a ready-to-install CBM, though, but don’t recall having seen any indication of them providing any installation service when I’ve spoken to them.
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### Author:  [@zantanzuken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zantanzuken)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/12 "2021-03-12T12:53:45Z")
its less that there is a ‘dedicated CBM surgeon’ and more that you bring a NPC with doctor skills with you to handle the autodoc while its surgeon-ing you.
… or there is a dedicated surgeon and i’ve just never found it this entire time, but auto-docs are everywhere, so…
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### Author:  [@BenJoneWert](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BenJoneWert)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2021, 3:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/13 "2021-03-12T15:27:55Z")
There seems to be a “nurse robot” that can help you dismantle and install CBM？
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### Author:  [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/14 "2021-03-12T16:11:26Z")
Yes, but:
1. you have to find autodoc with robonurse, they only spawn in labs AFAIK
2. the nurse should be non-glitched (random chance, I guess)
3. you have to wait till it stand in a place where it does affect the success chance
4. You must wear a doctor’s badge for it to work. Thanks, Palu, I completely forgot about it.
(3) always work, but is _really_ unintuitive. It is not “adjacent to autodoc” neither “adjacent to you”. It’s some set of nearby tiles which can only be determined by waiting for the nurse to move around and checking success chances after each location change.
(TIL firefox recognize the word “yo” as valid but the word “firefox” is unknown to it)
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### Author:  [@PALU](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/PALU)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/15 "2021-03-12T17:26:09Z")
I though you’d have to find a doctor’s badge to get (non glitched) nurse robots (“nurse bots”, but I suspect BenJoneWert’s translation SW may have trouble with that) to assist. Do you say that you can also get them to assist if they happen to be in one of the magical locations, or that they have to be in such a position in addition to wearing the badge?
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### Author:  [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-do-you-even-find-surgeons/26058/16 "2021-03-12T17:39:39Z")
In addition. Forgot the badge, thanks for reminding me about it.