# When is a torch completely burnt out?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-is-a-torch-completely-burnt-out/27434>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [December 18, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-is-a-torch-completely-burnt-out/27434 "2021-12-18T15:25:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![scorp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@scorp](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/scorp)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-is-a-torch-completely-burnt-out/27434/1 "2021-12-18T15:25:45Z")

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When activating a torch it runs out of energy within a second but does not become a burnt out torch, fuel shows almost completely burned out.

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**Author:** ![chellomere](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/chellomere/32/12189_2.png) [@chellomere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/chellomere)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-is-a-torch-completely-burnt-out/27434/2 "2022-12-11T19:58:32Z")

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Just bumped into this issue on latest experimental:

You light the torch.  
The torch is extinguished.  
The torch ran out of energy!

Still it doesn’t become a “burnt out torch” that you can use to craft a new one with gasoline and a cotton patch.