# What would be the size of stuff? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Bunker\ **Created:** [November 27, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249 "2013-11-27T02:22:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ideka](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ideka/32/1057_2.png) [@Ideka](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ideka)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/1 "2013-11-27T02:22:41Z")
I’m assuming tiles represent a space of a certain size in square meters/square feet. Anyone knows what size would this be? ---
**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/2 "2013-11-27T02:28:55Z")
When I did my render of the RMCC I went with 4 feet by 4 feet, because a normal “bed” is two tiles long, assuming average height is 6 feet it gives a bit of buffer for things ---
**Author:** ![deadmerits](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/deadmerits/32/19_2.png) [@deadmerits](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/deadmerits)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/3 "2013-11-27T02:56:07Z")
I thought it was two meters square. ---
**Author:** ![BadSniper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@BadSniper](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BadSniper)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/4 "2013-11-27T03:39:53Z")
[quote=“deadmerits, post:3, topic:4249”]I thought it was two meters square.[/quote]AFAIK that’s the represented size of the tiles in Dwarf Fortress. I assume that each square in Cataclysm is either 1 square foot (30 square centimeters, for those of you who are not in the U.S.) or 1 square yard (~1.08ish square meter) ---
**Author:** ![Ideka](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ideka/32/1057_2.png) [@Ideka](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ideka)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/5 "2013-11-27T04:39:47Z")
Hmm… 1 square foot seems far too small to me. 1 square meter/4 square feet sounds about right… It’s kind of weird, though. Trying to figure this out, I was driving in a car at 32 km/h, and the car would advance two tiles per turn. If a turn is 6 seconds, that would mean each tile is ~27 square meters (~88.5 feet)… ---
**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 4:41am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/6 "2013-11-27T04:41:45Z")
[quote=“Ideka, post:5, topic:4249”]Hmm… 1 square foot seems far too small to me. 1 square meter/4 square feet sounds about right… It’s kind of weird, though. Trying to figure this out, I was driving in a car at 32 km/h, and the car would advance two tiles per turn. If a turn is 6 seconds, that would mean each tile is ~27 square meters (~88.5 feet)…[/quote] If you want to get nitty-gritty about it CDDA’s tiles are, to an extent, arbitrary. 4x4 Feet is just what I used for the RMCC and it seems to have worked out well for the purposes I needed the info for. ---
**Author:** ![Ideka](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ideka/32/1057_2.png) [@Ideka](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ideka)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 5:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/7 "2013-11-27T05:04:10Z")
[quote=“EkarusRyndren, post:6, topic:4249”][quote=“Ideka, post:5, topic:4249”]Hmm… 1 square foot seems far too small to me. 1 square meter/4 square feet sounds about right… It’s kind of weird, though. Trying to figure this out, I was driving in a car at 32 km/h, and the car would advance two tiles per turn. If a turn is 6 seconds, that would mean each tile is ~27 square meters (~88.5 feet)…[/quote] If you want to get nitty-gritty about it CDDA’s tiles are, to an extent, arbitrary. 4x4 Feet is just what I used for the RMCC and it seems to have worked out well for the purposes I needed the info for.[/quote] What does that mean though? Why exactly did you need to know that to build the RMCC? ---
**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 5:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/8 "2013-11-27T05:11:21Z")
[quote=“Ideka, post:7, topic:4249”][quote=“EkarusRyndren, post:6, topic:4249”][quote=“Ideka, post:5, topic:4249”]Hmm… 1 square foot seems far too small to me. 1 square meter/4 square feet sounds about right… It’s kind of weird, though. Trying to figure this out, I was driving in a car at 32 km/h, and the car would advance two tiles per turn. If a turn is 6 seconds, that would mean each tile is ~27 square meters (~88.5 feet)…[/quote] If you want to get nitty-gritty about it CDDA’s tiles are, to an extent, arbitrary. 4x4 Feet is just what I used for the RMCC and it seems to have worked out well for the purposes I needed the info for.[/quote] What does that mean though? Why exactly did you need to know that to build the RMCC?[/quote] [I did a Google Sketchup render in my spare time at one point](http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=450.msg64377#msg64377) ---
**Author:** ![deadmerits](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/deadmerits/32/19_2.png) [@deadmerits](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/deadmerits)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 5:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/9 "2013-11-27T05:16:16Z")
That was amazing. I’ve never seen the RMCC other then the ASCII version. And I may very well have been using numbers from dwarf fortress… I need to take better notes. ---
**Author:** ![Ideka](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ideka/32/1057_2.png) [@Ideka](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ideka)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 5:36am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/10 "2013-11-27T05:36:19Z")
[quote=“EkarusRyndren, post:8, topic:4249”][quote=“Ideka, post:7, topic:4249”][quote=“EkarusRyndren, post:6, topic:4249”][quote=“Ideka, post:5, topic:4249”]Hmm… 1 square foot seems far too small to me. 1 square meter/4 square feet sounds about right… It’s kind of weird, though. Trying to figure this out, I was driving in a car at 32 km/h, and the car would advance two tiles per turn. If a turn is 6 seconds, that would mean each tile is ~27 square meters (~88.5 feet)…[/quote] If you want to get nitty-gritty about it CDDA’s tiles are, to an extent, arbitrary. 4x4 Feet is just what I used for the RMCC and it seems to have worked out well for the purposes I needed the info for.[/quote] What does that mean though? Why exactly did you need to know that to build the RMCC?[/quote] [I did a Google Sketchup render in my spare time at one point](http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=450.msg64377#msg64377)[/quote] Oh, wow. That’s nice. Well I guess my question is answered. ---
**Author:** ![Aluminumfoil](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/aluminumfoil/32/5163_2.png) [@Aluminumfoil](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Aluminumfoil)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 5:45am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/11 "2013-11-27T05:45:52Z")
Sizes fall into three categories that are more or less internally consistent but not consistent with each other. -single-tile objects (monsters, characters, loot, furniture and vehicle interior elements, machinery, etc) which are essentially un-scaled and might represent anything from thirty centimeters to three meters. -vehicles, buildings, towns, large-scale terrain elements are all roughly to scale at about 0.5 meters a tile (a 4 tile wide car would be about 2 meters wide, a 20 tile wide small house would be about 10 meters wide, etc). -travel speeds, which are scaled at around 20 meters per square. ---
**Author:** ![vache](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ea666f/32.png) [@vache](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vache)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/12 "2013-11-27T12:58:30Z")
I have been operating under the assumption that every terrain/vehicle/building tile was 1 m^2. It makes sense when you consider terrain like doors, fridges, dressers, etc. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249/13 "2013-11-27T13:02:04Z")
Yeah i also assume a square meter for convenience but i think the sizes of cars make them something between 2 feet and a meter