# What the deal with backpacks?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [August 30, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434 "2015-08-30T18:41:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
**Page:** 2

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![hobophobic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/hobophobic/32/11698_2.png) [@hobophobic](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/hobophobic)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434/21 "2015-09-02T20:20:07Z")

</div>

[quote=“stk2008, post:20, topic:10434”]The backpack thing would be epic

We could drop it on the floor just before we go into combat to remove the encumbrance that goes with it.

Then pick it back up after.

We.could also have say 2 backpacks in Base one full for night ops missions another for day.

We just pick up the required backpack and of we go.[/quote]

This is very much needed. Right now, if you remove your backpack, you only remove the backpack but somehow everything in it stays on you and you are instantly overburdened. Makes no sense at all.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![stk2008](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@stk2008](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/stk2008)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434/22 "2015-09-02T20:21:58Z")

</div>

Exactly

It would be an epic feature and an instant win for every one tbh.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Artyom177](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Artyom177](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Artyom177)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434/23 "2015-09-03T01:50:26Z")

</div>

So essentially a backpack release mechanism? I have that for my BOB so when i’m in some type of firefight, or need to get the fuck out as quickly as possible. I have a way to not be such a big target. If we can have something like that, then that would provide us with things like stashes and the ability to become unencumbered when having to fight targets in close range.

If anything, we should have something like that. It’s a good idea.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SioxGWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@SioxGWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/SioxGWolf)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 6:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434/24 "2015-09-22T18:37:44Z")

</div>

With the backpack holding thing, I can see it going further. Bodies would contain their clothing, so when you pick up and move a body, all the items go with it, and taking the clothing off would take a little longer, and if you don’t do it before butchering/smashing, you could damage the clothing. Also this would be cool with duel wielding, one hand holding a brief case full of stuff, and a weapon in the other. And further back being able to modify all clothing to accommodate your now mutated appendages, would be cool. taking the tattered remains of what use to be shoes before you grew hooves, and using them to make hoove covers. Also hi to you all, I’m new, and ever since starting, so many changes have filled my head, but I want to look through all the suggestions first before giving my input. Of course, it does take some time to throw off your bag, light it on fire, and throw your flaming bag filled with dynamite at some poor sod.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434/25 "2015-09-22T18:41:01Z")

</div>

> [@SioxGWolf](#):
>
> Bodies would contain their clothing, so when you pick up and move a body, all the items go with it, and taking the clothing off would take a little longer, and if you don’t do it before butchering/smashing, you could damage the clothing.

“You put your panties (fits) in the zombie corpse.”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SioxGWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@SioxGWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/SioxGWolf)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 6:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434/26 "2015-09-24T18:26:36Z")

</div>

> [@Random\_dragon](#):
>
> [quote=“SioxGWolf, post:24, topic:10434”]Bodies would contain their clothing, so when you pick up and move a body, all the items go with it, and taking the clothing off would take a little longer, and if you don’t do it before butchering/smashing, you could damage the clothing.

“You put your panties (fits) in the zombie corpse.”[/quote]  
I don’t know what your night life is like. But dressing a body like yours when running from people hunting you down is an idea that comes to mind.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 6:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434/27 "2015-09-24T18:31:20Z")

</div>

Huehuehue. The real joke here is a reference to the fact that dropping items into containers typical uses “in” rather than “on” so… \>.\>

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![skoormit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@skoormit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/skoormit)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434/28 "2015-09-24T21:15:14Z")

</div>

Yes, please, on wearable containers actually containing items, rather than just adding more hammerspace around your body.

On implementing the interactions between mutations and clothing, I’m not convinced an elegant solution would be hard to discover.  
Of course, I consider the implementation of a snipe-ton of item tags a sufficiently elegant solution. Your standards may be higher.

Example:

Item tag: COVERS\_FINGERS  
Valid only for items that occupy the Hands slot.

Attack tag: REQUIRES\_UNCOVERED\_FINGERS  
Tag is attached to claw attacks.

Code that determines which attacks are currently valid must return false for an attack that REQUIRES\_FINGERS if character is wearing an item that REQUIRES\_UNCOVERED\_FINGERS.

That’s two tags and one line of code.

Another example:

Item recipe tag: SCALABLE\_WHEN\_CRAFTED  
Item tag: SCALED

Additional line of code for crafting: If the player is too big for his britches, a SCALABLE\_WHEN\_CRAFTED recipes produce a SCALED item.  
Additional line of code for wearing items: Oversized player can wear an item that is SCALED.

That’s two tags and two lines of code. Maybe you need another tag for mutations (REQUIRES\_SCALED\_ITEMS)–I don’t know if size is kept as a separate stat.

The set of mutation interactions that can be handled this way is large enough to achieve quite a bit.  
Any interaction that can’t be handled with a few tags and an additional line of code in one or two places gets put in the parking lot.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Frostwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/frostwood/32/112_2.png) [@Frostwood](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Frostwood)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434/29 "2015-09-24T23:38:42Z")

</div>

Someone should add a hiking backpack(that can be used with larger/more mutated characters), as hiking backpacks are adjustable, and also carry more. It shouldn’t be craftable though.

[Previous page](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434.md?page=1)