# What do I need to make mutagen?
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-do-i-need-to-make-mutagen/20633
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [July 2, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-do-i-need-to-make-mutagen/20633 "2019-07-02T20:41:14Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@flapjack3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/flapjack3)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-do-i-need-to-make-mutagen/20633/1 "2019-07-02T20:41:14Z")
I’ve finally decided to start making mutagen in my game. The problem is, I have no idea what I need. I’ve searched up and down in labs, but I haven’t found the right tools. What do I need to find or craft?
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### Author:  [@Entity](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Entity)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-do-i-need-to-make-mutagen/20633/2 "2019-07-02T22:24:57Z")
Bleach and ammonia will be the main ingredients for crafting mutagen/purifier, you can find those all over labs, I think you’ll also need tainted meat for standard mutagen.
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### Author:  [@flapjack3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/flapjack3)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-do-i-need-to-make-mutagen/20633/3 "2019-07-02T22:27:21Z")
I know that, I meant the tools that I need to make mutagen. The chemistry kit isn’t enough.
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### Author:  [@Entity](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Entity)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-do-i-need-to-make-mutagen/20633/4 "2019-07-02T22:43:52Z")
Should be enough, maybe your cooking skill needs to be higher or you still need to find a recipe
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### Author:  [@flapjack3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/flapjack3)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-do-i-need-to-make-mutagen/20633/5 "2019-07-02T22:58:03Z")
Well, my problem is that an update added new tools that I have to find to be able to make mutagen
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### Author:  [@Entity](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Entity)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-do-i-need-to-make-mutagen/20633/6 "2019-07-02T23:24:25Z")
Oh I see, this is new to me too. That would explain the new science objects added to the game not too long ago.
> **Summary**
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> [https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/blob/0d99a680de3487442c26cc35d8bd0803ba0f9480/data/json/items/tool/science.json](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/blob/0d99a680de3487442c26cc35d8bd0803ba0f9480/data/json/items/tool/science.json)
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### Author:  [@Reinhark](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Reinhark)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-do-i-need-to-make-mutagen/20633/7 "2019-07-03T01:20:04Z")
I had my eyes on those science-objects for a while. This should be it:
3 Chemical making : Chemistry set.
Separation : Centrifuge. Found dozen of portable versions in the lab.
Analysis: I swear that spectrometers had it in earlier versions, but now this “Basic lab analysis kit” does.
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### Author:  [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-do-i-need-to-make-mutagen/20633/8 "2019-07-03T01:24:09Z")
you should be able to find at least one mutagen in labs or lab escape, or at least a recipe book