Welding rig?

GrizzlyAdamz · 2013-09-29T21:07:19.000Z

A gas vehicle needs a gas tank.

An electric vehicle needs a storage battery and a solar panel.
More batteries = more gas tanks
More panels = continuously pouring in free gas

I’ve got 4 panels feeding 5 batteries and it’s absolute overkill for my 3k lb car. I stop driving and it goes from (almost full) to (full) instantly, and despite the description the solar panels charge when the weather isn’t ‘sunny’.

Chiko · 2013-09-29T22:09:18.000Z

Haven’t noticed that. I’ve been saving gas coz I thought my electric car would have energy issues in winter. I guess I’ll just worry about food, then.

GrizzlyAdamz · 2013-09-29T22:43:50.000Z

Confirmation on it would be great- at this point I only remember at one point going, 'Huh!" because the batteries were charging and it was either ‘cloudy’ or ‘clear’.

ShinQuickMan · 2013-09-30T00:33:10.000Z

It does charge at cloudy, even during storms, albeit slower IIRC. Yet with plenty of panels and batteries the difference won’t be noticeable anyway.

Murphy · 2013-09-30T01:04:12.000Z

It even charges indoors. Slowly.

I know because I once built an electric car in a garage and couldn’t get it out to charge up. Then I went away and came back in several days and it was 5% charged.

Anyway, I was going to say that welding rigs are findable, if rare. I found one in a garage, though it’s usually easier to craft your own.

Natures_Witness · 2013-10-01T16:21:33.000Z

You can actually store stuff in the welding rig itself, handy for all your crafting tools, just stand near it and craft away Also, I had wanted the welding rig to be usable for repairing cauterizing, etc. but could never figure out how to attach the soldier_weld iuse menus to it. Looking at this topic reminded me of this, so if anyone could help me add this feature to the welding rig that would be awesome! I wanted people to have a renewable source of energy for crafting/vehicle construction, and making a vehicle part that could make use of solar panels was what I ended up with. But it’s always bugged me I didn’t get the personal scale repair menus in, so please help if you can.

kevin.granade · 2013-10-01T18:04:33.000Z

The only sensible thing I can think of is giving it an iexamine entry, but the vehicle itself overrides that with the vehicle construction menu…

Oh hey, we could hook it up to the same interface you use for vehicle controls (^), and popup a menu from that.

Redwallzyl · 2013-10-03T02:34:49.000Z

i found like 3 in a garage there not that rare.

Natures_Witness · 2013-10-03T17:07:40.000Z

I’m actually working on adding the hot plate and welder menus to the RV kitchen and welding rig, so you can use them to repair equipment, heat food, etc. it’s slow going as I don’t have much coding skill, so if you’d like to help check out the pull at https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/3395. I could really use some advice on how to make the game actually call the iuse menu on an item.

prytoclasm · 2013-10-04T10:36:16.000Z

Just put it somewhere in your car, add a battery and solar panels and whenever repair is needed: do it. You can repair from inside you car + use stuff lying underneath. It’s fun to disassemble a whole RV and then drive over the spot and outfit your own car “Truck of Death” further.

Zaweri_Runewright · 2013-10-05T08:49:09.000Z

Redwallzyl:

i found like 3 in a garage there not that rare.

I think you mean welders, not welding rigs.

Natures_Witness · 2013-10-16T15:08:35.000Z

In case anyone is interested, I finally finished my PR to improve the welding rig and kitchen unit, and it’s been pulled into the mainline experimental. Now, if you have a welding rig or kitchen unit installed on your vehicle, you can examine them to get the functionality of the welder or hot plate respectively. You can heat up your food with the kitchen unit, repair your metal/plastic/Kevlar equipment with the welding rig, and cauterize your wounds with either one. And all using the power from your vehicle’s storage battery!

FunsizeNinja123 · 2013-10-16T19:16:38.000Z

Hellz yeah, thanks NW.

Natures_Witness · 2013-10-16T19:28:15.000Z

NP the real thanks goes to Kevingranade and Atomicdryad for looking at the near-gibberish code I started with and actually figuring out how to make it work.

dda · 2014-01-18T13:06:23.000Z

I dunno what Im doing wrong. Finally got a vehicle welding rig but cant seem to find anywhere on my flatbed truck where Im able to install it. On the motorcycle I see that I can install it on the battery, but I would rather have it on my electric truck for infinite welding power. What are the restrictions for where you can install one of these babies?

DG123 · 2014-01-18T13:20:55.000Z

I’m not sure… I tend to put a welding rig at the back of my vehicle on the outer surface. That works fine for me. Maybe try adding an extra unit of frame on the back and putting it on that? At least it would be useful as a test.

Natures_Witness · 2014-01-18T13:47:15.000Z

The welding rig goes in the “center” slot. To get it on your flatbed, you just need to remove whatever part is taking up this slot on the tile you want to install the welding rig on. Some examples of parts that use this slot are:

quarterpanels
trunks, boxes, etc.
seats
windshields
doors

Basically, anything that gets in your character’s way or is otherwise part of the “middle” of a vehicle is probably a “center” part. If you want a full list, just open vehicle_parts.json (it’s in your Cata folder under data/json) and look for the word “location”. It’ll show you every vehicle part in the game, and where it gets installed to.

Hope this helps, I’m glad people seem to get so much use out of the crafting stations, like the welding rig.

FunsizeNinja123 · 2014-01-18T13:47:34.000Z

You need to install it on an empty frame.

Durrr

DG123 · 2014-01-18T13:54:49.000Z

[quote=“FunsizeNinja123, post:42, topic:3270”]You need to install it on an empty frame.

Durrr[/quote]

Was this changed recently? Or is it just the ORDER of installation that matters? I have a welding rig with a battery and plating on the same tile.

Also, I have a related question.

Why do my welding rigs, kitchen units, chemistry labs etc on my truck keep ending up in “red” damage? I’ve not really been doing much crashing into things. Enemies have hit the outside of the vehicle a bit but not enough to do much damage. Light green damage to the outer surfaces of the vehicle translates to all my kitchens etc nearly blowing up?

What the hell?

How do I prevent this? I’m not sure what the new vehicle materials like heavy duty frames do exactly…

FunsizeNinja123 · 2014-01-18T13:59:47.000Z

Batteries don’t matter. In my mind ,they always went under the rig/unit.

And yes, order probably does matter.