Weather changes

[TheZoneWizard]

Should be noted we don’t actually get flooding to the degree you would suggest. We have a lot of mountain area and hills mate. While we have many who own homes have their basement flood. This is just $h!tty architecture and bad land management and not an area thing. Boston gets floods though. Along the coast and they sell land that is prone to flooding. But this is because the land owners are dumping onto the market to a lot of fools who do not know the area is garbage land.

[Umbra.Animo]

ok i still think it could happen bad rainstorm have caused it before

[TheZoneWizard]

I won’t say we’ve never had floods round here. But…well. Nothing to bad that I’ve ever heard of in the entire region.

If you wanted to make flooding happen in basements. That would be peachy. This happens all the time lol

My ex had her parents house get flooded up to waste deep. My cousin had the same thing happen in his house. I lived in one apartment complex where it flooded too. Thankfully I was smart enough to put everything stacked high on skids when most other didn’t xD

So many hilly areas that mass flooding doesn’t turn into a thing.

[Umbra.Animo]

im more talking the players area might flood not the whole regen just their location and that to even out the affect the area would be clean of things like zombies for a few days as well. loot would not be damged just so it does not screw over areas the player has yet to loot

[Eastwardrope91]

Bud. I live in new England too. Floods do still happen here especially in low areas. One of the towns I used to live had a low point in the road which would flood something terrible would stop traffic it was so deep. My grandfather’s field would also flood in the spring and it would spread up to the house if it was bad enough some times to actually spread up to the house and I remember one time it was so bad it was up to the porch and then some. But then again it was a low land. But flash floods can happen regardless of terrain as they happen due to heavy rain fall and not so much from pooled water.

[TheZoneWizard]

I was thinking of national guard needed to evacuate people flooding. Doesn’t happen like that. Flooding a parking lot or something small occasionally does.

Most places don’t flood though. I can think of a few farm areas with a swamp or pond nearby that fill a few spots…but nothing major. Haven’t seen to many road ways flood either. Seven times maybe from boston to vermont in 30 or so years off hand.

[Umbra.Animo]

I only talking about a low level flood. i have seen floods that go up at least two stories but i only talking one story and and basements since water would flow their

[TheZoneWizard]

I understand. This is also what I was talking about. We don’t get that sort of flooding that people need to climb up to a roof in order to escape it. It just doesn’t happen in the region. =/

[Umbra.Animo]

eh its a game we can have a little suspension of disbelief

[TheZoneWizard]

Completely agree with you on this. I would like this as an option. Just not default. Nothing wrong with debating mate. =)

[Umbra.Animo]

fair point and i was saying that it should only happen after a time. let the player build something to survive and all

[TheZoneWizard]

Add this to the Boat mod. Would be great to have to find a boat or raft come the rain season

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I think the real meat of this idea would be if we had elevation in the land. Which we don’t. Yet.

[TheMurderUnicorn]

I’m pro-fog.

I don’t know how I feel about flooding as a weather effect, given the geographical location. I think weather effects should be ‘typically experienced weather’ with more severe weather effects being sufficiently rare or not implemented at all. But then again, how common are salt-water swamps in New England? Hell if I know.

However, I do think there should be more flooded locations. Basements in certain locations will always be prone to flooding. Additionally, sprinkler systems will ruin entire skyscrapers if they’re not properly turned off. I don’t think it should be an extension of the weather, but I do think there should be more flooded locations.

[Eastwardrope91]

I don’t think sprinklers will destroy a building in a matter of weeks. Also I think New England may have had some face works as there are ZERO mountains in the entire game area. So hills aren’t really there either as such according to what maps are in the game New England was flattened some how. So in theory flooding is entirely possible but it would be hard especially with storm drains and the like and the standard city flood prevention systems like troughs carved in the sides of some roads to funnel water. Also kinda off topic but I’m pretty sure 3 years are the roads are so broken your might as well drive off of them due to Maine’s weather (can’t speak for the other states in this area as I’ve only briefly been in them and mostly just passed right through them).

[TheMurderUnicorn]

I actually didn’t mean it would ‘destroy the building’. I was thinking more like, you know, clothes get the FILTHY flag, electronics get ruined, there are more insect spawns as a result of rotting furniture, etc.

Without human intervention, a sprinkler system would just keep running as long as it’s able to. This would create flooding in some capacity. I don’t mean waist-deep water on every floor, I just meant the aftermath of a building being exposed to large amounts of water and gravity.

[Eastwardrope91]

Well most utilities continue for about a month, at most after that they flicker and after 6 months to a year they will fail completely without human interaction or intervention this depends on location typical. Which typically means those sprinklers will fail quickly. Project Zomboid simulates this nicely. But slot of machinery in the cataclysm should work completely for awhile.

[TheZoneWizard]

That is a bit tricky now. Especially to simulate. That blizzard we had a few years ago knocked out power for a week and a lot longer in other areas. Most utilities run off electricity. So water pressure shuts down if the damage is severe. Plus the water can be poisoned by too much crap entering into the system and that becomes a hazard even if it is still active.

MANNnnnnnny things could go wrong…always fun to brain storm though. I totally dig this about this game and others. Especially chilling with others on such topics.

[Umbra.Animo]

so while the idea of a weather flood is iffy the idea of a flooded building from damaged water systems has potential

[Eastwardrope91]

I think at worst if you do add flooding I’d think it would end up kinda like the dust bowl in the Midwest which happened due to poor “terraforming” by which I mean they changed the landscape so they could farm better but made it huge wind farm instead. I think something similar happened to New England with the mountains as you encounter none (I know it’s just a lack of setup and background stuff to make it work). Which would imply that humanity or the horrible demonic things we let out leveled the mountains.

[TheZoneWizard]

Yup. In a nutshell. Basements for some reason are to this day. A crap shoot and nobody has made improvements in 50 years. One would think that a simple thing as keeping out water would be something on the to do list and make a ton of money. But, nope. Happens all the time.

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A french drain would be a good way to help avoid a flooded basement. But in a city this would prove a pain in the ass. Unless you converted a driveway and directed it to the sewer…assuming the sewer didn’t flood…which happens >_>