# Weapon Suggestion General

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-suggestion-general/3186>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [September 23, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-suggestion-general/3186 "2013-09-23T20:56:04Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-suggestion-general/3186/1 "2013-09-23T20:56:04Z")

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Okay, in order to get some order we might gather all the wishes and suggestions for new weapons and weapon types in this thread.

I would like to bring up the Derringers

![](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QFhBZkHkHyw/TjE_gTsCjkI/AAAAAAAAHGY/64cYPklD7HU/s400/cobra_derringer.jpg)

A compact, 2 shot last ditch weapon! Comes in various calibers (.22, 9mm, .45, .38 and some of the .45 versions even fire shot)!  
Of course it lacks some accuracy but with a bit of training and \>9000 attachments it will do fine even at bigger ranges.

Bonus points for making a .454 casull Derringer!

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**Author:** ![Nav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Nav](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nav)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 11:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-suggestion-general/3186/2 "2013-09-23T23:30:34Z")

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The nock gun  
 ![](http://www.nrablog.com/image.axd?picture=2010%2F10%2FNRAblog_popp_Nockgun.jpg)

It’s basically seven muskets. Takes a few minutes to reload, but then fires all seven bullets at once. requires a lot of strength to use or the recoil will break your shoulder.

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-suggestion-general/3186/3 "2013-09-23T23:33:19Z")

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![](http://i.imgur.com/DaoIxaJ.jpg)

I have no idea what it’s called, but I want one.

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-suggestion-general/3186/4 "2013-09-24T00:00:12Z")

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Looks like some kind of halberd to me.

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-suggestion-general/3186/5 "2013-09-24T13:06:25Z")

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There is already a weapon suggestion topic in the Lab part of the forum.  
Not pretending, just noticing.

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**Author:** ![Iosyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/iosyn/32/35_2.png) [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-suggestion-general/3186/6 "2013-09-24T14:09:07Z")

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Derringers might be cool. I suggested something similar, but they got shot down. There’s a market out there that makes single-shot pistols with rifle cartridges. Very fast to reload, they’d pack much more power than a derringer too, a real nice back up weapon. you generally break them like a double-barrel shotgun, pull the spent case and shove a fresh one in, although people have been known to make ridiculous shit like a [.45-70 Gov’t Revolver. Just listen~~\<3](http://youtu.be/wyssHlwl4Sw)

For some reason people have made cut-down AKs and ARs, but those are just stupid. the cut-down AK looks like a goddamn AK-74U, and the cut-down AR looks just plain stupid. I’m amazed people can actually call them pistols, because they’re really not.

 ![](http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/10975/11406058_1.jpg?v=8CE7EDEAD3D3DD0)

This is the kind of thing I was thinking of. image is a thompson arms contender, although I think they’ve stopped production for some calibers (namely I’m not sure if they still make a [.30-06 version](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggMnvlKr6k8)but models are still available in .500 SW and .45-70-- and guys, just a note these are freakin huge for a handgun. .500 S&W in particular has been used to hunt elephants, bears, bison, moose etc…

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 3:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-suggestion-general/3186/7 "2013-09-24T15:02:38Z")

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[quote=“trusty\_patches, post:5, topic:3186”]There is already a weapon suggestion topic in the Lab part of the forum.  
Not pretending, just noticing.[/quote]

> trusty\_patches  
> I read your name like 100 times and NOW I know who you are… lol

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[quote=“Iosyn, post:6, topic:3186”]Derringers might be cool. I suggested something similar, but they got shot down. There’s a market out there that makes single-shot pistols with rifle cartridges. Very fast to reload, they’d pack much more power than a derringer too, a real nice back up weapon. you generally break them like a double-barrel shotgun, pull the spent case and shove a fresh one in, although people have been known to make ridiculous shit like a [.45-70 Gov’t Revolver. Just listen~~\<3](http://youtu.be/wyssHlwl4Sw)

For some reason people have made cut-down AKs and ARs, but those are just stupid. the cut-down AK looks like a goddamn AK-74U, and the cut-down AR looks just plain stupid. I’m amazed people can actually call them pistols, because they’re really not.

![](http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/10975/11406058_1.jpg?v=8CE7EDEAD3D3DD0)

This is the kind of thing I was thinking of. image is a thompson arms contender, although I think they’ve stopped production for some calibers (namely I’m not sure if they still make a [.30-06 version](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggMnvlKr6k8)but models are still available in .500 SW and .45-70-- and guys, just a note these are freakin huge for a handgun. .500 S&W in particular has been used to hunt elephants, bears, bison, moose etc…[/quote]  
Awesome weapons! I hope those and those cute but brute derringers will make it into the game.

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Okay I went trough that 16 paged thread and filtered through the suggestions:  
I left out unlikely(sorry for you, giant dildo ;\_😉 and already implemented stuff (and doubled suggestions of course)

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AK-74  
AKS-74  
AKS-74U  
RPK  
RPK-74  
Dragunov SVD  
SVDS  
L85  
M60  
Mosin-Nagant M91/30  
FAMAS F1  
Glock 18  
Sig 550  
Makarov PM  
Ammo  
5.45x39mm 5N7  
5.45x39mm 7N10  
7.62x54mmR 7N1  
7.62x54mmR 7N13  
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A military pick.  
A lighter mace.  
Fire Axe  
Golf club  
Quarter staff  
Nerve gas  
At least two or three different two handed swords.  
Some type of short sword  
Flails  
Caltrops  
Dumb bells

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Small throwing knives, darts, or shurikens could be found/produced in stacks and take up very little volume, but rely on really high skill to do meaningful damage.  
Throwing clubs could be cumbersome, but easy to produce/survival-based and moderately powerful.  
Throwing axes could be really powerful, but difficult to find/produce.  
More exotic stuff just for fun and flavor, like hand torpedos, flying guillotines, chakrams, etc.

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- knuckle dusters  
would be nice to add for unarmed strikes, and if we want to throw in some nails for spiked knuckle dusters, then why not?

- spud gun  
used to fire rocks and, well, potatoes. a good early survivor cannon. pipe - pilot light - duct tape. for fuel i guess the butane from spray cans?

and i know it won’t be great against zombies but just for the flair: whips.  
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Sig-550  
Makarov  
Glock 21  
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Vibroblades (very, very sharp, very fragile) in knife and sword varieties  
Monomolecular whips (again very sharp, very fragile)

And guns:  
Smartguns (increased accuracy if you have the accompanying CBM installed)  
EMP rifles  
Bolt Rifles (shoot electricity)  
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Using existing ammo:  
Smith & Wesson Model 29  
FN FNX-45 Tactical (aka Tac-45)  
Beretta M93 Raffica  
Beretta 92FS  
Browning Hi-Power  
M3A1 “Grease Gun”  
M1A1 Thompson  
M1 Garand  
M1918 BAR  
MP-40  
Walther P38  
M16A1  
M16A4 (3-round-burst)  
H&K UMP-40  
Springfield M1903  
Winchester Model 1866  
Winchester Model 1887  
Kel-Tec PLR16 (technically a handgun)  
Webley Mk. VI  
Sawn-off Model 1887 (we have a sawn-off Saiga-12)

Needs new ammo:  
Colt Python  
Winchester Model 1894  
Colt Peacemaker  
Barrett M107  
Accuracy International AS-50  
PTRD  
PTRS-41  
Desert Eagle .50 AE  
M1 Carbine  
Lee-Enfiend No. 4 Mk. 1  
Karabiner 98k  
StG-44

New ammo required:  
.357 Magnum  
.50 BMG/12.7x99mm NATO and  
14.5x114mm  
.50 Action Express  
.30 Carbine  
.303 British  
7.92x57mm Mauser  
7.92x33mm Kurz

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Melee:  
Kukri (phillipinese knife-sword)  
Sabre (like the ones from Civil war)  
Trench knife (knife+knuckledusters in one, could make you deliver alternating stabbing and punching damage, and can’t be pulled out of hand, unless they break your fingers)

Guns:  
CZ line of pistols  
Skorpion (small smg)  
Panzerfaust and/or Bazooka along with really rare ammo for them (they should be collector stuff I guess)  
FAMAS (bullpup french rifle)  
Dragunov sniper rifle  
Barrett cal. 50 (that’s ought to put down anything)

Thrown:  
High explosive grenade  
White phosphor grenade  
I guess I can’t add good old german potato masher… the charge would probably be useless if it’s in future

Explosives:  
Claymore mine  
Nuclear bomb. I’m not kidding.  
Semtex charge  
Thermite charge - very special sort, could be used to cut through something which can’t be cut. Reminds me that jackhammer would destroy its tip while smashing metal doors, or your dude would bounce for an hour, that’s sort of unrealistic. I love this stuff, really, it cuts everything. [Thermite - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite)  
Home made shrapnel grenade with really weak explosive power (like one tile) and produces a rain of shrapnel that showers and shreds anything standing near

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Handguns:  
Flare-gun  
Makeshift Zip-gun

Rifles:  
AK-12  
Heckler & Koch G11

Melee:  
Medieval Battle Axe  
Non-makeshift Halberd (If they aren’t in yet, the wiki doesn’t list them)  
Naginata  
Tonfa/Nightstick  
Flamberge  
That smaller shovel used in trenches from WW1 and WW2

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AA-12  
Xm307(Deploys like a funnel activate to mount it and shoot. Could also work with sniper rifles and machine guns on bi/tripods.)  
Gatling Gun/Mini gun  
Naginata  
Drum magazines that come in two different flavors: Single drum and double drum. One for pistols, shotguns, and rifles.

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Ballistic Shield  
Throwing knives  
Shurikens  
Smashed glass bottle (stabbing)

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tomahawk.

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Knuckleduster, fist pack, sap gloves, fist load, tekko, punch dagger, cestus, katar.

Basically some weaponry that uses the unarmed combat skill, so folks who want to brawl but don’t have martial arts can still do some real damage.

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Harpoon guns  
Stun baton  
Tesla Conductor Based Device

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Basically it’s a flail with the circular saw disk as a hitting part.

And also whip made out of the chainsaw’s chain. Put some rags on one end to use them as a handle, rip the flesh of your enemies with another.  
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1. Sabre. Well, we’ve got katanas, broadswords and even zweihanders. We clearly need some sabres.
2. Scythe. Because… well, scythe.

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-suggestion-general/3186/8 "2013-09-24T15:14:12Z")

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I DO NOT SEE AN M14 IN THIS LIST!  
 ![](http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as15/m14_1.jpg)