# We make TERRIBLE suggestions and come up with horrible ideas (Round II)

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [November 13, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444 "2018-11-13T23:03:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![crazykiddeath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/crazykiddeath/32/5709_2.png) [@crazykiddeath](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/crazykiddeath)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/681 "2019-04-12T17:44:06Z")

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Interesting, how long did it take?  
I actually use the “punch holes in the top” method when I use evaporated milk, makes it easy to pour out. I do use a can opener to make the inital holes though 😛

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**Author:** ![Mantar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mantar/32/42_2.png) [@Mantar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mantar)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/682 "2019-04-13T18:14:21Z")

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Hey, i found the video. It’s actually a can of tuna, and it doesn’t take long:

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**Author:** ![crazykiddeath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/crazykiddeath/32/5709_2.png) [@crazykiddeath](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/crazykiddeath)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/683 "2019-04-13T18:19:12Z")

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He cheated! he used a knife!  
But seriously that’s pretty cool, I love learning stuff like that, never know when it might come in handy.

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**Author:** ![Tru3insanity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@Tru3insanity](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tru3insanity)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 9:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/684 "2019-04-14T09:01:20Z")

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Sex addict trait. You freaking lose your mind (morale) if you dont use a vibrator or playboy 3 times a day. Guaranteed to start with a vibrator or playboy.

Random chance of the radio in the car being on and set to like 100 decibels when you turn it onn cuz someone was blasting metal or rap when the cataclysm hit.

Random chance of there being house alarms when you enter a house. Computer skill gives you a chance to disarm them and can trigger them on failure. Can add motion sensor lights too.

Fall on your sword! If your dex drops too low (maybe below 4) You have a chance to trip and fall on your weapon for some damage and possibly kill yourself.

Hay piles have a random chance to spontaneously combust if its outside and raining. Imagine sleeping on that nice hay pile only to burn to death in your sleep.

Kindergardner zombies that swarm and kick you in the shins till your legs are broken and then they leave you there. And broken legs sets your max speed to the minimum (25 i think?)

Trying to pick up anything heavier than you (like say a 200L drum full of gasoline) has a chance of knocking it over on yourself and killing you.

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**Author:** ![Axema](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/axema/32/10822_2.png) [@Axema](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Axema)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/685 "2019-04-14T09:25:11Z")

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`GENOCIDE` trait, wherein players are forbidden to talk with NPCs and are always hostile towards them.  
Its like the `PSYCHOPATH` trait, but provides morale boost from killing NPCs and other monsters with `GUILT` flag in them.

**Good for those isolated jerks** ❤

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**Author:** ![harison86](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/harison86/32/10005_2.png) [@harison86](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/harison86)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/686 "2019-04-14T16:55:20Z")

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More arbitrary and subjective morale penalties! Upset about defending yourself against what may as well be a midget psychopath with a knife and superhuman traits? Angsty over your shoes getting dirty because the guy next to you died in a particularly bloody manner? Why stop there!?

- Killed a dog? MORALE PENALTY!
- Killed a _zombie_ dog? MORALE PENALTY!
- Broke a limb? MORALE PENALTY!
- In pain? MORALE PENALTY!
- Sick? MORALE PENALTY!
- Damaged your named sword? MORALE PENALTY!
- Crashed your car? MORALE PENALTY!
- Killed a guy trying to kill you? MORALE PENALTY!
- Found some of your favorite food already rotten? MORALE PENALTY!
- Saw a particularly large and mutated zombie that would be intimidating to a normal person but you know your super mutant cyborg could take it? MORALE PENALTY!
- Slept without a proper bed, blanket, pillow, and a goodnight kiss? You bet your flame-resistant socks+1 that’s a MORALE PENALTY!

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**Author:** ![Cynicus26](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/cynicus26/32/4998_2.png) [@Cynicus26](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cynicus26)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/687 "2019-04-14T17:31:14Z")

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**Author:** ![Slax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/slax/32/5385_2.png) [@Slax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Slax)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/688 "2019-04-14T18:06:51Z")

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You attempt to pet the zombie dog. It bites your hand! -2000 mood!

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**Author:** ![Axema](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/axema/32/10822_2.png) [@Axema](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Axema)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/689 "2019-04-14T23:46:58Z")

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> [@Slax](#):
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> You attempt to pet the zombie dog.

Zombie dog:

 ![meme2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/1/10066aa42c39481216d7c5abcdc1caf87137213a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![jokermatt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/jokermatt/32/5035_2.png) [@jokermatt](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/jokermatt)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/690 "2019-04-15T00:40:25Z")

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> [@QuietCoyote](#):
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> Everything becomes “The Thing”

> [@A new enemy: doppler](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-enemy-doppler/19679/):
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> I have an idea connected with monsters. What do you think about the enemy which is able to take form of any living creature? It might return to its natural form and kill us by surprise. Dopples would be divided into three types: a small doppler: an enemy that is small and can imitate / mimic animals like a squirrel, rat, cat, bird, duck etc a medium doppler: its size is medium and it is able to take form of a wolf, cougar, dog etc a huge doppler: takes form of a cow, moose, deer, bear e…

Get the flamethrower, Coyote.

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**Author:** ![Hirmuolio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hirmuolio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Hirmuolio)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/691 "2019-04-15T20:18:14Z")

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Vehicles have working mirrors.

Houses can have mirror furniture.

The mirror furniture should work too and allow us to see behind corners!

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**Author:** ![mentos046](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mentos046/32/11932_2.png) [@mentos046](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mentos046)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/692 "2019-04-15T20:51:42Z")

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New Profession: Insurance Salesperson. Starts with a suit and briefcase, Speech 3 and Barter 3, and has a Profession Trait just called “Insurance Salesperson”.

All NPC interactions on a character with this trait contain speech checks wherein you attempt to sell them insurance on whatever the subject matter is, no matter how inappropriate the timing. Need to go retrieve some weather records? Sell them insurance on the building the records are in. They need you to rescue their dog? Pet Insurance. Kill their Zombie Mom? Life Insurance. If you pass the speech check they purchase a policy from you, resulting in you gaining some money. You _will_ have to pay up though, if you sell them pet insurance then take the mission to rescue the dog and the dog dies.

Another effect, not listed in the description, is that the trait automatically tends mutations toward Bird (Duck) or reptile (Gecko).

Once you’re post Bird-threshold, all of your dialogue is replaced with shouts of “AFLAC!”, including NPC conversation dialogue. Extended conversations with NPCs may randomly and abruptly end with them turning hostile to get you to shut up. Also, post Bird has Shouter, which causes you to involuntarily shout “AFLAC!”, even in your sleep.

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**Author:** ![Slax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/slax/32/5385_2.png) [@Slax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Slax)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/693 "2019-04-19T22:46:23Z")

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Care for some “portable” overkill?

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**Author:** ![Hof1993](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/hof1993/32/6251_2.png) [@Hof1993](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Hof1993)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/694 "2019-04-22T17:34:13Z")

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Vehicles require oil and break and transmission fluid as well. Also…not having windshield wiper fluid will cut off line of sight after a period of time.

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**Author:** ![Matthew\_Alexander](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/matthew_alexander/32/5571_2.png) [@Matthew\_Alexander](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Matthew_Alexander)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/695 "2019-04-24T22:16:41Z")

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When throwing Molotov cocktails with low throwing skill (3 or less), you have a chance to drop it, setting yourself alight.

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**Author:** ![crazykiddeath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/crazykiddeath/32/5709_2.png) [@crazykiddeath](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/crazykiddeath)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/696 "2019-04-24T22:25:05Z")

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**Author:** ![Slax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/slax/32/5385_2.png) [@Slax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Slax)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 9:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/697 "2019-04-25T09:18:17Z")

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Going to sleep with enhanced memory banks enabled will eventually give you one mental illness or another. You remember everything. Your dreams. Your nightmares. Every little toss and turn. Your mind can’t really handle it. Overwhelming! You start hallucinating. Permanently. The hallucinations never seem to fade.  
Turn the CBM off and things don’t get any better. Common reality sucks! It sucks so much. You miss your mania and your mind starts deteriorating without meds. Alzheimer’s disease kicks in at some point. Severe depression. Intelligence tanks. Everything is terrible! **AUGH!**

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**Author:** ![Hirmuolio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hirmuolio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Hirmuolio)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 11:12am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/698 "2019-04-28T11:12:27Z")

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Batteris should not work at below certain temperature. Both car and hand held batteries.

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**Author:** ![mentos046](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mentos046/32/11932_2.png) [@mentos046](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mentos046)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/699 "2019-05-02T15:05:56Z")

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When multi-tile enemies become a thing I want to see blob possessed vehicles scattered about the world. Most of them will be large enough, fast enough, and tough enough that fighting them without a vehicle of your own is an arduous task.

Herbie: Low-tier, early game spawn. A living Beetle. Not innately hostile but not hard to aggro.

Christine: Indiscernible from normal cars that spawn in garages appended to houses. Always spawns with incredibly useful car parts and turns hostile if you attempt to remove one.

Thomas the Tank Engine: The childhood icon, except now it wants to kill you.

Thomas the Shank Engine: Someone welded long spikes to this model before it came to life. It enjoys ramming you at high-speeds.

Thomas the Gank Engine: Always spawns in large groups.

Thomas the Dank Engine: Someone was hiding a large stash of marijuana in this model’s firebox before it came to life. Incredibly difficult to aggro.

When that’s done, there will be a new Gods of the Cataclysm Challenge: to suplex a train.

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**Author:** ![Rot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rot/32/454_2.png) [@Rot](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rot)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/700 "2019-05-03T18:36:16Z")

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Just imagine the meta of finding a creepy doll and keeping it just for it to spawn combat knives for a freshly made character to use

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