# We make TERRIBLE suggestions and come up with horrible ideas (Round II)

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [November 13, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444 "2018-11-13T23:03:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Theundyingcode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/theundyingcode/32/500_2.png) [@Theundyingcode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Theundyingcode)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/1 "2018-11-13T23:03:15Z")

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So one of my favorite threads on the smf forums was:

> [@We make bad suggestions and come up with horrible ideas](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101):
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> Just porting over a gem from the original forum, whales dev. (came from [http://whalesdev.com/forums/index.php?topic=1584.0](http://whalesdev.com/forums/index.php?topic=1584.0)) Go ahead and post a terrible idea or bad suggestion!

Kevin closed it for some unlisted reason but I think it deserves to live. Post the worst, most terrible ideas you can.

Here are a couple to start us off again:

- Re enable acid rain and make it the most common weather type.

- Add collision detection systems to all cars after all you don’t want to accidentally hit anything

- Give zombie grenadiers mini nukes.

- Surviving military personnel are carpet bombing areas, periodically random swaths of land get blown up with no concern for any survivors.

- Add a NPC named terry. Make him completely broken (power armor, rivtech weapons, all stats/skills @ 20+, the works). Add a dialog option to insult him causing terry to subsequently rip the survivor’s face off. Make death message say “You died from dissin’ Terry.”

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**Author:** ![latogato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9bd4f/32.png) [@latogato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/latogato)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/2 "2018-11-13T23:12:29Z")

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> [@Theundyingcode](#):
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> Give zombie grenadiers mini nukes

Uhm, elite grenadier has mininuke hacks. 😁

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**Author:** ![Theundyingcode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/theundyingcode/32/500_2.png) [@Theundyingcode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Theundyingcode)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/3 "2018-11-13T23:14:15Z")

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> [@latogato](#):
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> > Give zombie grenadiers mini nukes
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> Uhm, elite grenadiers has mininuke hacks.

Great… just great, do they also drop active mininukes?

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**Author:** ![latogato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9bd4f/32.png) [@latogato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/latogato)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/4 "2018-11-13T23:20:35Z")

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> [@Theundyingcode](#):
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> Great… just great, do they also drop active mininukes?

According to the monster\_drops.json file, there is “1 prob” chance (i think it is a percentage) to drop one mininuke hack on death. !FUN!😓

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**Author:** ![Theundyingcode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/theundyingcode/32/500_2.png) [@Theundyingcode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Theundyingcode)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/5 "2018-11-13T23:22:10Z")

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That’s an item though do they actually activate it?

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**Author:** ![latogato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9bd4f/32.png) [@latogato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/latogato)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/6 "2018-11-13T23:28:04Z")

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> [@Theundyingcode](#):
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> That’s an item though do they actually activate it?

I presume, when they die the dropped hacks are activated AFAIK.

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**Author:** ![Krisu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/krisu/32/11683_2.png) [@Krisu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Krisu)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/7 "2018-11-13T23:28:37Z")

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Add pooping and peeing. With a certain trait you can pee/poo on your enemies for a morale boost

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**Author:** ![Mussorgsky](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mussorgsky/32/2718_2.png) [@Mussorgsky](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mussorgsky)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/8 "2018-11-13T23:49:13Z")

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Coprophagia trait, nuff said.

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**Author:** ![nameless\_survivor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nameless_survivor/32/4476_2.png) [@nameless\_survivor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/nameless_survivor)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/9 "2018-11-14T00:28:30Z")

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Irritable bowel syndrome trait, makes you randomly shit yourself, stunning you. Will dirty your lowest layer of leg clothing if you cant take them all off in time. Imagine an attack happening while being chased by a horde of zombies. Or shitting your power armor. Removed by expanded digestion cbm or the mutation which does something similar.

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**Author:** ![Trigon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/trigon/32/2668_2.png) [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/10 "2018-11-14T01:50:59Z")

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When reloading a gun at low skill levels have a chance to misfire and shoot yourself.

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**Author:** ![Theundyingcode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/theundyingcode/32/500_2.png) [@Theundyingcode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Theundyingcode)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/11 "2018-11-14T01:59:04Z")

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Chance to lose you 10mm socket making certain wrench requiring activities impossible.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/12 "2018-11-14T03:13:18Z")

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1/1,000,000,000,000 chance each turn of being struck by a meteor.

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**Author:** ![Medi\_Ding](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/medi_ding/32/5091_2.png) [@Medi\_Ding](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Medi_Ding)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/13 "2018-11-14T03:47:50Z")

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Every bridge on the map will have a ragged figure of an NPC. You must answer all of his questions correctly/pass enough speech checks or be teleported into the water and have 10+ Jawed Terrors spawn around you.

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**Author:** ![Wayticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wayticus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wayticus)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 5:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/14 "2018-11-14T05:17:15Z")

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Or random chance for lighting strike during rain storm, even higher if you are wearing the good medieval metal armor, or wielding conductive weapons. Zombies are of course immune because the blob makes them less conductive.

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**Author:** ![bostltch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/bostltch/32/3226_2.png) [@bostltch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bostltch)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 6:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/15 "2018-11-14T06:08:47Z")

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Dental hygiene. If you don’t brush your teeth regularly all of them will rot making it impossible for you to eat any solid foods. Bonus if candies deal extra tooth decay damage.

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**Author:** ![Erk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/erk/32/3871_2.png) [@Erk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Erk)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 6:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/16 "2018-11-14T06:25:01Z")

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Realistic healing. Minor cuts take at least a day to heal. Serious cuts take several days. A deep bite could easily be a month, and if it’s on a major body part you could permanently lose strength and have lifelong pains. A broken bone will take weeks.

Also if you carry too much weight you can throw out your back and be down for a day. Doing it too often could give you a bad back for good.

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**Author:** ![AskaHope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/askahope/32/6691_2.png) [@AskaHope](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/AskaHope)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/17 "2018-11-14T07:14:52Z")

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Realistic suicide. The character now need a tool or some sort (like a knife or a gun) to commit suicide. It would work more or less like this.

80% chance of failing the attempt  
10% of succeeding the attempt  
10% of getting a random permanent debilitation, and maybe no longer be able to attempt suicide.

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**Author:** ![Invalid\_Username](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@Invalid\_Username](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Invalid_Username)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/18 "2018-11-14T07:57:13Z")

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Or a long rope and a chair/table. Or a razor blade. Or an intentional drug overdose. Or finding a tall building to jump from. Or trying to drown yourself. Base the CoS on [this.](http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods)

For that matter, why don’t certain drugs react more violently with alcohol?

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**Author:** ![TheMurderUnicorn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/themurderunicorn/32/5706_2.png) [@TheMurderUnicorn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheMurderUnicorn)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 10:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/19 "2018-11-14T10:28:57Z")

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Why do we need this thread? You just described 90% of the forum.

_rimshot_

Also, please implement a way for my NPCs to tell me about their day. You know, how many corpses they pulped, how they feel about being used as my backpacks, that sort of thing. I’m very interested in the emotional tedium that is their existence.

Also, 'cause I’m in that sort of mood – We could add my ex-girlfriend to the game. She would basically do nothing (like my other NPCs) except that she constantly compares you to her father and complains that you don’t have a five year plan.

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**Author:** ![nameless\_survivor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nameless_survivor/32/4476_2.png) [@nameless\_survivor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/nameless_survivor)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444/20 "2018-11-14T12:08:37Z")

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Have followers regularly pester you for attention (Hey, Listen!), and then point out the obvious (Look out, there is a zombie 5 tiles away!)

When picking up heavy objects, chance to fail and drop it on your foot, causing you to swear loudly:  
You pick up the storage battery.  
Your grip slips and you drop the storage battery on your foot.  
You cry out in pain “OUCH GODDAMNIT!”.

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