# We make bad suggestions and come up with horrible ideas

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [September 18, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101 "2013-09-18T17:15:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Catfoodbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 10:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/461 "2014-12-05T22:22:18Z")

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Moon mode… The outbreak has spread to a moon settlement, New challenges, New dangers, moon cloths… and all the cheese you could eat.

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**Author:** ![NOMOETOE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nomoetoe/32/287_2.png) [@NOMOETOE](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NOMOETOE)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/462 "2014-12-05T23:46:26Z")

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Dev NPCS, NPCS with all the debug traits, all of the bionics [size=8pt](except fusion blaster :P)[/size], limitless power, a 120 mm cannon with unlimited ammo, mjolnir and enough health to survive 5 mininukes. Also has the power to remove you from existence if you damage it too much.

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**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/463 "2014-12-05T23:49:41Z")

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> [@NOMOETOE](#):
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> Dev NPCS, NPCS with all the debug traits, all of the bionics [size=8pt](except fusion blaster :P)[/size], limitless power, a 120 mm cannon with unlimited ammo, mjolnir and enough health to survive 5 mininukes. Also has the power to remove you from existence if you damage it too much.

The overpowered guy who stops time first wins.  
“cbms aren t to strong” -foxnews 2014

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/464 "2014-12-06T00:25:52Z")

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> [@Valpo](#):
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> [quote=“NOMOETOE, post:462, topic:3101”]Dev NPCS, NPCS with all the debug traits, all of the bionics [size=8pt](except fusion blaster :P)[/size], limitless power, a 120 mm cannon with unlimited ammo, mjolnir and enough health to survive 5 mininukes. Also has the power to remove you from existence if you damage it too much.

The overpowered guy who stops time first wins.  
“cbms aren t to strong” -foxnews 2014[/quote]

Only in melee–guns shouldn’t fire any faster because your body is sped up.

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**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/465 "2014-12-06T00:34:27Z")

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That wouldn t change the outcome though.  
And you realy can t use all those free turns to shoot how often you want? I haven t used cbms for quite some time now.

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**Author:** ![Catfoodbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 1:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/466 "2014-12-06T01:16:09Z")

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Shocker Dog-nuff said

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**Author:** ![NOMOETOE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nomoetoe/32/287_2.png) [@NOMOETOE](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NOMOETOE)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/467 "2014-12-06T01:18:01Z")

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> [@Catfoodbob](#):
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> Shocker Dog-nuff said

Shocker jabberwock.

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**Author:** ![Catfoodbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 1:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/468 "2014-12-06T01:19:13Z")

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Tankbot Shocker Hulkerwock

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**Author:** ![NOMOETOE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nomoetoe/32/287_2.png) [@NOMOETOE](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NOMOETOE)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 1:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/469 "2014-12-06T01:22:16Z")

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> [@Catfoodbob](#):
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> Tankbot Shocker Hulkerwock

How does that even work? I imagine it would be a tankbot that had shocker zombies/brutes and hulks that merged together onto it. Simply horrifying

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**Author:** ![someone7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@someone7](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/someone7)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/470 "2014-12-06T01:23:36Z")

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This is actually a serious idea, but undoubtedly also horrible:

Eating is a big part of most roguelikes, and Cataclysm makes sleeping a big thing. The next logical biological function is…pooping and peeing.

You could have a bladder indicator, telling you had badly you need to pee/poop. Particularly dangerous encounters and drugs could make you have to crap immediately or piss yourself, and bad food could give you uncontrollable diarrhea. Pee could be used in emergencies instead of water (maybe boil it to make it safer), and poop could give off powerful scent clouds to attract zombies, and be usable as a thrown weapon or fertilizer for farming.

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**Author:** ![Pthalocy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@Pthalocy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pthalocy)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 1:24am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/471 "2014-12-06T01:24:53Z")

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(Warning you now, that one has actually been kicked around a few times, for better or for worse. Mostly worse, so far.)

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**Author:** ![Catfoodbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 1:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/472 "2014-12-06T01:28:01Z")

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> [@NOMOETOE](#):
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> [quote=“Catfoodbob, post:468, topic:3101”]Tankbot Shocker Hulkerwock

How does that even work? I imagine it would be a tankbot that had shocker zombies/brutes and hulks that merged together onto it. Simply horrifying[/quote]

Government experimentation gone too far

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/473 "2014-12-06T02:32:06Z")

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> [@Catfoodbob](#):
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> [quote=“NOMOETOE, post:469, topic:3101”][quote=“Catfoodbob, post:468, topic:3101”]Tankbot Shocker Hulkerwock

How does that even work? I imagine it would be a tankbot that had shocker zombies/brutes and hulks that merged together onto it. Simply horrifying[/quote]

Government experimentation gone too far[/quote]

Spitter shocker tankbot jabberwock.

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**Author:** ![RAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@RAM](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/RAM)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/474 "2014-12-06T02:37:31Z")

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I would be content with shocker and spitter bacteria. The shocker bacteria would sometimes turn up as colonies of dozens of distinct entities in the wild. Spitter bacteria would just live on random tiles, and only be detected when they release acid, when they are disturbed, usually by having items dropped on them… Of course both would be distributed around the environment and would infect survivors at random…

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/475 "2014-12-06T02:38:34Z")

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A very small random chance of dying from a heart attack when you get hit in the chest.

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**Author:** ![NOMOETOE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nomoetoe/32/287_2.png) [@NOMOETOE](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NOMOETOE)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 2:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/476 "2014-12-06T02:42:07Z")

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If its cold enough there should be a chance of the water freezing instantly killing you when you dive into water. 😃

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**Author:** ![bubbadoo14](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/bubbadoo14/32/2716_2.png) [@bubbadoo14](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bubbadoo14)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/477 "2014-12-06T07:35:10Z")

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> [@RAM](#):
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> I would be content with shocker and spitter bacteria. The shocker bacteria would sometimes turn up as colonies of dozens of distinct entities in the wild. Spitter bacteria would just live on random tiles, and only be detected when they release acid, when they are disturbed, usually by having items dropped on them… Of course both would be distributed around the environment and would infect survivors at random…

Wut? The zombie disease is not bacteria, they’re slimes…

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**Author:** ![wilson7755](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c89c15/32.png) [@wilson7755](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/wilson7755)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 8:12am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/478 "2014-12-06T08:12:06Z")

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You should be able to convert ‘nones’ to ‘Perfectly generic objects’

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**Author:** ![RAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@RAM](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/RAM)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 8:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/479 "2014-12-06T08:32:28Z")

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> [@bubbadoo14](#):
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> [quote=“RAM, post:474, topic:3101”]I would be content with shocker and spitter bacteria. The shocker bacteria would sometimes turn up as colonies of dozens of distinct entities in the wild. Spitter bacteria would just live on random tiles, and only be detected when they release acid, when they are disturbed, usually by having items dropped on them… Of course both would be distributed around the environment and would infect survivors at random…

Wut? The zombie disease is not bacteria, they’re slimes…[/quote]  
Recently living human + spoiler = shocker zombie.  
Recently living bacteria + spoiler = ?  
Recently living [mushroom](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_organisms#Fungi) + spoiler = ?

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**Author:** ![Jakers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ab097/32.png) [@Jakers](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jakers)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 8:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/480 "2014-12-06T08:57:23Z")

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Super overcharged pressure washer which cuts through zombies! Load it up with any liquid you like, and in emergency you can use your piss!

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