# We make bad suggestions and come up with horrible ideas

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [September 18, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101 "2013-09-18T17:15:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TheKobold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thekobold/32/513_2.png) [@TheKobold](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheKobold)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2941 "2016-01-07T04:25:04Z")

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We need to be able to breed dogs and cats as a food source. Mmmmm fried puppy.

Twirls mustache. MWHAHA

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**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2942 "2016-01-07T04:27:00Z")

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[quote=“TheKobold, post:2941, topic:3101”]We need to be able to breed dogs and cats as a food source. Mmmmm fired puppy.

Twirls mustache. MWHAHA[/quote]

Can we raise kobolds for that purpose too? o3o

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**Author:** ![TheKobold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thekobold/32/513_2.png) [@TheKobold](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheKobold)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2943 "2016-01-07T04:30:37Z")

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[/quote]Can we raise kobolds for that purpose too? o3o[/quote]

We make better labor for the mines, bases and traps, plus we are all scales and bones, not much meat.

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**Author:** ![RAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@RAM](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/RAM)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2016, 8:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2944 "2016-01-09T08:34:17Z")

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There should be a new disease. Symptoms include:  
:dreams of life before the cataclysm and bright lights.  
:hearing voices, they will sometimes feature vague pleading for you to do something, or just conversations about normal activities, maybe they will sound like diary entries.  
:sometimes you will get confused or have memory issues, perhaps objects are not where you remember them or buildings being built inconsistently.

It can be cured by killing people, things that are similar to people, and by facing the horrors. Also, building a safe home with a healthy stockpile. Basically the symptoms will subside and eventually the disease will be gone as your character becomes more successful.

And you wake up in a hospital bed. It was all a dream…

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**Author:** ![WIndburns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WIndburns](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/WIndburns)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2945 "2016-01-09T20:16:33Z")

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Raised hand encumbrance when grabbing onto a cart.

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**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 4:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2946 "2016-01-12T04:42:04Z")

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Add [thermal lances](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_lance), which survivors can mod into [thermic lances](http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Thermic_lance).

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**Author:** ![iceball3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c89c15/32.png) [@iceball3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/iceball3)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2947 "2016-01-12T04:51:26Z")

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Remote Makeshift Glock mine: Craft by taking a Glock, putting a remote controlled device on it to pull the trigger when you press a button, and then duct taping nails all around the gun until it’s barely recognizable.  
Use it by throwing the entire pistol at your target, or leaving it at a staging area as a mine, and the pressing the detonator. Be sure that you take cover when this happens.

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**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2948 "2016-01-12T05:28:11Z")

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[quote=“iceball3, post:2947, topic:3101”]Remote Makeshift Glock mine: Craft by taking a Glock, putting a remote controlled device on it to pull the trigger when you press a button, and then duct taping nails all around the gun until it’s barely recognizable.  
Use it by throwing the entire pistol at your target, or leaving it at a staging area as a mine, and the pressing the detonator. Be sure that you take cover when this happens.[/quote]

For maximum meme, give it the “act on ranged hit” flag so it goes off if you chuck it.

Also, regarding my joke, there are non-joke bits hiding inside it. [https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/14810](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/14810)

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**Author:** ![BeerBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2949 "2016-01-12T14:25:17Z")

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Not all zombies want to eat your brains. Some still crave for food:

[B]Zombified truck driver[/B]  
Reeking of stale beer and diesel engine exhaust fumes, not even zombification stops this burgerhound from craving normal food. The saltier and the fattier, the better. Its presence means that the only edible things you’ll find around these parts are vegetables… and beer cans it couldn’t quite reach at the grocery store.

[B]Zombified lumberjack[/B]  
It’s obvious that Canada has run out of maple syrup. An astounding thought, for sure, but you wouldn’t be seeing these muscular monstrosities otherwise. If you see a chewed maple, chances are it wasn’t because of beavers but one of these guys. A river of dried saliva decorates the front of its red flannel plaid shirt. Occasional gusts of strong wind shake off froth off the sides of its mouth. Hide your syrup, hide your flapjacks.

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**Author:** ![TheKobold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thekobold/32/513_2.png) [@TheKobold](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheKobold)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 12:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2950 "2016-01-16T12:07:42Z")

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Fire ants. Giant ants just like we have but they spew fire. Just…cause…

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**Author:** ![iceball3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c89c15/32.png) [@iceball3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/iceball3)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2951 "2016-01-16T19:30:13Z")

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Weed Smoker Zombie: Like a normal smoker zombie but the smoke will also apply the High effect from weed cumulatively.  
Lock it in a secured location using iron bars or make a zlave out of it and do so to get dank as hell.

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**Author:** ![RAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@RAM](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/RAM)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2952 "2016-01-16T22:12:32Z")

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> [@TheKobold](#):
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> Lava ants. Giant ants just like we have but they spew lava that leaves lava tiles. They are spawned periodically from lava tiles. Just…cause…

+1!

Ooooh oooh, and salamanders! They spawn from fires and spit fires! You thought you were being clever lighting that fire to depopulate that playground, but now you have twenty harmless-looking lzards milling about and are terrified…

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**Author:** ![iceball3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c89c15/32.png) [@iceball3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/iceball3)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 7:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2953 "2016-01-17T07:19:30Z")

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Ball lightning. Rarely spawns from Sparks fields.  
Spews sparks randomly around it just by existing though, and wanders around quickly, so if enough are generated at once you might end up with a chain-reaction of ball lightning covering the entire overmap.

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**Author:** ![pingpong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4bbf92/32.png) [@pingpong](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pingpong)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2954 "2016-01-17T21:38:07Z")

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Maybe you could have “anomaly” fields. Lightning if you get too close, a whirligig one. Could have nice science gear or something if you can get to the middle. Each thing could have a specific traversal method, usually by something sciency. Wearing really heavy armor or having over weight could prevent you from being thrown around by whirligig. A faraday cage suit would keep from getting shocked.

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**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2955 "2016-01-17T21:41:07Z")

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> [@pingpong](#):
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> Maybe you could have “anomaly” fields. Lightning if you get too close, a whirligig one. Could have nice science gear or something if you can get to the middle. Each thing could have a specific traversal method, usually by something sciency. Wearing really heavy armor or having over weight could prevent you from being thrown around by whirligig. A faraday cage suit would keep from getting shocked.

Nice one, but we already have those. They surround artifacts. :V

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**Author:** ![RAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@RAM](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/RAM)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2956 "2016-01-19T00:11:16Z")

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[quote=“TheKobold, post:2941, topic:3101”]We need to be able to bread dogs as a food source. Mmmmm French toast puppy.

Twirls mustache. MWHAHA[/quote]

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**Author:** ![BeerBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 10:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2957 "2016-01-19T10:52:45Z")

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The warm beer mod

All beer, ale, stout, lager, whathaveyous are now irrevocably warm. No fridge, no winter, no ice lab is able to cool your beers anymore. Welcome to hell, where everything freezes over… except for the beer.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go sit in the corner and wrap my arms around my bent knees and stare into the distance.

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**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2958 "2016-01-19T17:00:11Z")

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[quote=“BeerBeer, post:2957, topic:3101”]The warm beer mod

All beer, ale, stout, lager, whathaveyous are now irrevocably warm. No fridge, no winter, no ice lab is able to cool your beers anymore. Welcome to hell, where everything freezes over… except for the beer.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go sit in the corner and wrap my arms around my bent knees and stare into the distance.[/quote]

Also? Profession: British. Grants immunity to morale penalties caused by warm booze.

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**Author:** ![Belteshazzar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Belteshazzar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Belteshazzar)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2959 "2016-01-19T20:33:18Z")

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Combat Maneuver to fling salt or other spices in the eyes. Causes pain and very temporary blinding.

May or may not have a much more potent effect on certain extra-dimensional foes.

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**Author:** ![TheMightyHercules](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/themightyhercules/32/340_2.png) [@TheMightyHercules](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheMightyHercules)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-bad-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas/3101/2960 "2016-01-19T22:22:19Z")

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> [@Belteshazzar](#):
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> Combat Maneuver to fling salt or other spices in the eyes. Causes pain and very temporary blinding.

![](http://media3.giphy.com/media/TyPydeCmjKQ2Q/giphy.gif)

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