Vehicle Additions Pack (Updated December 8)

mintbullet · 2017-05-05T12:12:13.000Z

I haven’t registered on the GitHub…
Just do some little changes can fix the problem so I just post here.
Here are the changes:

In blaze_vt_parts.json
Add this between line 207-208

“requirements” : {
“install” : {
“skills” : [[“mechanics”, 1]],
“time” : 30000,
“using” : “blazemod_diamond”
},
“removal” : {
“skills” : [[“mechanics”, 1]],
“time” : 5000,
“using” : “blazemod_diamondminor”
},
“repair” : {
“skills” : [[“mechanics”, 1]],
“time” : 10000,
“using” : “blazemod_diamondfix”
}
},
“damage_reduction” : {
“all” : 20 },

In blaze_vt_recipes.json
Delete line 106 and the last comma in line 105.

And thanks for your work. I know nothing about the GitHub…

Maddremor · 2017-05-05T18:04:53.000Z

I’ve added your fixes.

kazachastan · 2017-05-07T00:11:18.000Z

Were ballista bolts and launchers removed from the mod? In my recipe list i still have things like the Nova bolt and a ballista bolt rack, but lack the Scorpion (Blaze’s name for a ballista launcher). Am I just blind and missing a different ballista-bolt launcher?

mintbullet · 2017-05-07T06:04:30.000Z

kazachastan:

Were ballista bolts and launchers removed from the mod? In my recipe list i still have things like the Nova bolt and a ballista bolt rack, but lack the Scorpion (Blaze’s name for a ballista launcher). Am I just blind and missing a different ballista-bolt launcher?

Other>Parts
Archery lv5 is required.

darktoes · 2017-05-27T09:16:00.000Z

I’ve been using the modified version you guys posted but the vortex generator still doesn’t work, anyone got any ideas or plans?

mintbullet · 2017-05-27T12:44:49.000Z

darktoes:

I’ve been using the modified version you guys posted but the vortex generator still doesn’t work, anyone got any ideas or plans?

Try drop some water（not in a container） somewhere next to your vehicle using U.
Exam your vehicle then Fill vortex generator, now you should be able to select water as fuel.
Now use vortex generator as a normal reactor.

I don’t know how the reactors work exactly in the code. I guess they can only receive one kind of fuel at a time and they can’t accept liquid in container.

darktoes · 2017-05-27T15:27:20.000Z

mintbullet:

[quote=“darktoes, post:771, topic:7616”]I’ve been using the modified version you guys posted but the vortex generator still doesn’t work, anyone got any ideas or plans?

Try drop some water（not in a container） somewhere next to your vehicle using U.
Exam your vehicle then Fill vortex generator, now you should be able to select water as fuel.
Now use vortex generator as a normal reactor.

I don’t know how the reactors work exactly in the code. I guess they can only receive one kind of fuel at a time and they can’t accept liquid in container.[/quote]
I don’t know what to think of it, but that worked perfectly. Currently have a vortex generator running in my car. Thanks for your help!
Seems to use 1 water every 6 hours or so? I didn’t really look at it closely but it seems usable. I just wish I had more since the vortex stone I used to make it dropped from a doom slave of all things…

darktoes · 2017-06-04T06:59:11.000Z

So minor(ish) issue with the vortex engine. It has 400000 power. In other words, enough to get a lightly modified Electric SUV to a safe speed of ~246000km/h. Zoom. Also, this means that it produces a pretty substantial noise. I do not know how much noise yet, because it deafened my character instantly. Also takes about 25 minutes to start up for some strange reason.

TooDAMNMuch · 2017-06-25T01:13:22.000Z

honestly i’m ashamed how long it took me to notice this if true, but do blobs only drop blob globs with blazemod installed? cause they haven’t been dropping anything lately, although, i think i saw a replacement way to craft the blob frames, not sure though.

Tamior · 2017-07-03T12:21:14.000Z

Crossposting from bunker, because it seems to be more mod-related:

As far as I can tell, if you use an electric engine (large or enhanced, likely) as your actual engine, but add a small gas/diesel engine with all possible generators attached to re-charge the batteries, you can get WAAAY better mileage per liter of fuel than if you used that fuel to drive the MAIN engine itself.

To clarify how it works: you only leave the main electric engine ON when you drive, and when you park you disable the electric engine and enable the combustion one and let it run at idle while you do whatever it is you came to do. You can get 2+ full storage batteries out of 5-10 liters of fuel that way, and from my calculations two full storage batteries provide much MORE of watt-hours of engine power than 10 liters of gas if used directly in combustion engine.

Is this intended? Or are my numbers just way off and large combustion engines are nowhere near as fuel-intensive as I assume?

Edited:
So I checked the numbers, and in 0.C-6513 (with vehicles pack installed) large electro engine lists 40 000 e-power consumption giving 400 normal power.
While a gas-powered engine can generate ~12 000 e-power with all generator types installed.
I’m not sure how well gas consumption is tracked, but it’s linear with engine power afaik, and theoretically you need less than 30 normal power to run those generators.
So it’s about 100-110 units of normal power via gas engine to produce e-power for 400 power electro engine.
And it’s even better for smaller electro engines

TooDAMNMuch · 2017-07-08T04:00:18.000Z

[quote=“Tamior, post:776, topic:7616”]Crossposting from bunker, because it seems to be more mod-related:

As far as I can tell, if you use an electric engine (large or enhanced, likely) as your actual engine, but add a small gas/diesel engine with all possible generators attached to re-charge the batteries, you can get WAAAY better mileage per liter of fuel than if you used that fuel to drive the MAIN engine itself.

To clarify how it works: you only leave the main electric engine ON when you drive, and when you park you disable the electric engine and enable the combustion one and let it run at idle while you do whatever it is you came to do. You can get 2+ full storage batteries out of 5-10 liters of fuel that way, and from my calculations two full storage batteries provide much MORE of watt-hours of engine power than 10 liters of gas if used directly in combustion engine.

Is this intended? Or are my numbers just way off and large combustion engines are nowhere near as fuel-intensive as I assume?

Edited:
So I checked the numbers, and in 0.C-6513 (with vehicles pack installed) large electro engine lists 40 000 e-power consumption giving 400 normal power.
While a gas-powered engine can generate ~12 000 e-power with all generator types installed.
I’m not sure how well gas consumption is tracked, but it’s linear with engine power afaik, and theoretically you need less than 30 normal power to run those generators.
So it’s about 100-110 units of normal power via gas engine to produce e-power for 400 power electro engine.
And it’s even better for smaller electro engines[/quote]

gear ratios and stuff no longer exist.

Snapdragon · 2017-07-24T07:12:43.000Z

Is this mod still being updated? I really like the blob vehicles but they do feel very incomplete. It’s unfortunate that they don’t have tiles for any tileset but they don’t look too out of place with Retrodays. It looks like the Retrievers and (Directed) Gel Lamps don’t work at all. Also it seems shock bulbs and razors set to automatic will only fire at targets very close to the vehicle despite having much further range.

DG123 · 2017-08-06T14:41:46.000Z

Hi. I hope someone can answer a question for me…

I’m trying to install a 30mm autocannon on my tank. Apparently I can on certain areas such as the outermost frames but it won’t let me put one in the middle of my vehicle where I could actually sit on a seat and use the damn thing.

I can’t work out exactly what the limitations are on what you can mount one of these weapons onto.

e.g. I tried with and without a seat mounted, with and without a cargo space mounted…

Advice would be appreciated. I’m using an outdated version of the game but I imagine this is something that won’t have been changed too much.

Does it replace the roof or something weird like that?

I’m also not sure exactly how the game handles vehicle weapons shooting from the inner tiles of the vehicle to hit enemies outside the vehicle. Is it possible for the weapons to hit the vehicle?

darktoes · 2017-08-07T00:39:31.000Z

[quote=“DG123, post:779, topic:7616”]Hi. I hope someone can answer a question for me…

I’m trying to install a 30mm autocannon on my tank. Apparently I can on certain areas such as the outermost frames but it won’t let me put one in the middle of my vehicle where I could actually sit on a seat and use the damn thing.

I can’t work out exactly what the limitations are on what you can mount one of these weapons onto.

e.g. I tried with and without a seat mounted, with and without a cargo space mounted…

Advice would be appreciated. I’m using an outdated version of the game but I imagine this is something that won’t have been changed too much.

Does it replace the roof or something weird like that?

I’m also not sure exactly how the game handles vehicle weapons shooting from the inner tiles of the vehicle to hit enemies outside the vehicle. Is it possible for the weapons to hit the vehicle?[/quote]

I don’t think weapons can shoot the vehicle they’re attached to. Your problem probably stems from solar panels, as they use the same space that turrets do.

BorkBorkGoesTheCode · 2017-08-07T01:48:29.000Z

[quote=“DG123, post:779, topic:7616”]Hi. I hope someone can answer a question for me…

I’m trying to install a 30mm autocannon on my tank. Apparently I can on certain areas such as the outermost frames but it won’t let me put one in the middle of my vehicle where I could actually sit on a seat and use the damn thing.

I can’t work out exactly what the limitations are on what you can mount one of these weapons onto.

e.g. I tried with and without a seat mounted, with and without a cargo space mounted…

Advice would be appreciated. I’m using an outdated version of the game but I imagine this is something that won’t have been changed too much.

Does it replace the roof or something weird like that?

I’m also not sure exactly how the game handles vehicle weapons shooting from the inner tiles of the vehicle to hit enemies outside the vehicle. Is it possible for the weapons to hit the vehicle?[/quote]
All the Tank guns are mounted on the roof until the game can simulate z-level vehicle turrets. Try installing a roof over your firing position.

Duros · 2017-08-17T08:39:13.000Z

Hey Folks,

Really sorry if this is adressed elswhere but or the life in me Ii can’t seem to find out how to make the blob parts, I have level 10 in Fabricat, cooking and Construction, but the only crafting recipies I have are for the blob feeds/Liquid Feed.

No frames, no “gelectrode”, amorphous heart, nothing like that :S.

I can see the parts when I examine vehicles, tanks and making frames out of gelatenous/gray/oozing is fine, i can see the amourphous heart and add it when i spawn the item in, but don’t know how/can’t see the crafting recipe for the heart and other parts.

I checked the PAQ and even the crating files themsleves, it seems like the “Autolearn” tag isn’t working for these pieces.

Im sorry if there’s some secret I’m missing but beyond spawning the items in with the “Wish for Item” I can’t seem to find a way to get these items in my game, am I missing something?

DeWolf · 2017-08-17T13:41:47.000Z

[quote=“Duros, post:782, topic:7616”]Hey Folks,

Really sorry if this is adressed elswhere but or the life in me Ii can’t seem to find out how to make the blob parts, I have level 10 in Fabricat, cooking and Construction, but the only crafting recipies I have are for the blob feeds/Liquid Feed.

No frames, no “gelectrode”, amorphous heart, nothing like that :S.

I can see the parts when I examine vehicles, tanks and making frames out of gelatenous/gray/oozing is fine, i can see the amourphous heart and add it when i spawn the item in, but don’t know how/can’t see the crafting recipe for the heart and other parts.

I checked the PAQ and even the crating files themsleves, it seems like the “Autolearn” tag isn’t working for these pieces.

Im sorry if there’s some secret I’m missing but beyond spawning the items in with the “Wish for Item” I can’t seem to find a way to get these items in my game, am I missing something?[/quote]
Unless you are working a different version or something you can craft a growing blob frame which then turns into a gelatinous mass which is then where you can craft a whole bunch of stuff.

Reaper310 · 2017-08-18T17:05:32.000Z

can someone explain how to install this mod or what version i need to play with this mod, I cant seem to get this or the weapons pack to work on any of my games, and ive never been able to, even though I’ve tried many times, i keep getting errors.

Reaper310 · 2017-08-18T23:35:11.000Z

Fixed it by doing this,

That's because the fuel deffinition for engines changed from "fuel" to "fuel_type" and this mod wasn't udpated to reflect that (or some other changes for that matter). The version you get from the launcher will work, but lacks some newer features.

changing the fuel to fuel_type in 2 places that gave me errors fixed this problem and allow me to use it in the latest experimental

Clueless · 2017-08-22T12:44:06.000Z

[quote=“Duros, post:782, topic:7616”]Hey Folks,

Really sorry if this is adressed elswhere but or the life in me Ii can’t seem to find out how to make the blob parts, I have level 10 in Fabricat, cooking and Construction, but the only crafting recipies I have are for the blob feeds/Liquid Feed.

No frames, no “gelectrode”, amorphous heart, nothing like that :S.

I can see the parts when I examine vehicles, tanks and making frames out of gelatenous/gray/oozing is fine, i can see the amourphous heart and add it when i spawn the item in, but don’t know how/can’t see the crafting recipe for the heart and other parts.

I checked the PAQ and even the crating files themsleves, it seems like the “Autolearn” tag isn’t working for these pieces.

Im sorry if there’s some secret I’m missing but beyond spawning the items in with the “Wish for Item” I can’t seem to find a way to get these items in my game, am I missing something?[/quote]

I’ve had the same problem. The recipes simply aren’t there, not even when using the debug menu to unlock all recipes.

In my case, this was caused by a conflict with the “Mutation Changes” mod. That mod blacklists the vanilla mutagen (which is used to craft most of the growing blob parts) and substitutes it with its own variants. I solved it by replacing every instance of “mutagen” in the blaze_blob_recipes file with “mutagenM.”