# Vacutainer catch 22?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vacutainer-catch-22/6808>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [July 17, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vacutainer-catch-22/6808 "2014-07-17T00:05:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Solusphere](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/solusphere/32/66_2.png) [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vacutainer-catch-22/6808/1 "2014-07-17T00:05:06Z")

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So, I was hoping to make a few NX-17 charge rifles, one for myself and a couple more for my bitchin’ electric killdozer. Turns out I need a vacutainer for each one. Fair enough. Ok, so where do I get vacutainers? Oh, only from disassembling NX-17 charge rifles you say? EXCELLENT.

So is this really a case of an item that can only be crafted by disassembling an intact version of the item? Or is there some other place you can find these vacutainers that the wiki and item browser don’t mention?

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**Author:** ![Nemonole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nemonole](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nemonole)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vacutainer-catch-22/6808/2 "2014-07-17T00:13:59Z")

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I think I found a few in FEMA camps, they’re not very common, ~1 every 2 or 3 camps maybe?

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**Author:** ![Slax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/slax/32/5385_2.png) [@Slax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Slax)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 12:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vacutainer-catch-22/6808/3 "2014-07-17T00:17:43Z")

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Try a hospital.

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 12:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vacutainer-catch-22/6808/4 "2014-07-17T00:19:18Z")

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They also may spawn in hospitals, and I think the rifle itself sometimes spawns in cave and black widow nests, but you still have a lot of looting to do.

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**Author:** ![Solusphere](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/solusphere/32/66_2.png) [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 12:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vacutainer-catch-22/6808/5 "2014-07-17T00:38:45Z")

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Ah, so they do sometimes spawn naturally then. I was wondering why there was even a recipe for the gun otherwise. Thanks for the advice!

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 2:36am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vacutainer-catch-22/6808/6 "2014-07-17T02:36:38Z")

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They spawn in hospitals, FEMA camps, and maybe labs.

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**Author:** ![GroeneAppel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ab992/32.png) [@GroeneAppel](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GroeneAppel)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vacutainer-catch-22/6808/7 "2014-07-17T14:56:21Z")

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Hospitals are by far your best bet. As they are a common spawn there. I got around 10 last time I raided a hospital.

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**Author:** ![Efimero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/efimero/32/330_2.png) [@Efimero](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Efimero)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vacutainer-catch-22/6808/8 "2014-07-17T18:51:43Z")

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I’m pretty sure I found one in a lab, yeah. =3