# Using mini-flamethrower bionic doesn't count as lighting fire for purposes of Pyromania disad

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**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [February 9, 2019, 9:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/using-mini-flamethrower-bionic-doesnt-count-as-lighting-fire-for-purposes-of-pyromania-disad/18743 "2019-02-09T21:47:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![VIVIT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/vivit/32/4431_2.png) [@VIVIT](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/VIVIT)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 9:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/using-mini-flamethrower-bionic-doesnt-count-as-lighting-fire-for-purposes-of-pyromania-disad/18743/1 "2019-02-09T21:47:47Z")

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Playing a bionic prepper with pyromania, I’ve found that while starting a fire with my mini-flamethrower satisfies the fire craving and grants a morale bonus for standing near a fire, it does not grant a morale bonus for lighting a fire. Since the mini-flamethrower is essentially an integrated lighter, this seems like an oversight.

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**Author:** ![psyxypher](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/psyxypher/32/11778_2.png) [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/using-mini-flamethrower-bionic-doesnt-count-as-lighting-fire-for-purposes-of-pyromania-disad/18743/2 "2019-02-09T22:15:51Z")

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You sure? Because unless this was changed /very/ recently, I can tell you it’s not true; I believe this might be a mistake on your part. Pyromania doesn’t get treated by lighting fires, but by proximity. It takes a round for this update.

Screenshots?

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**Author:** ![VIVIT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/vivit/32/4431_2.png) [@VIVIT](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/VIVIT)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/using-mini-flamethrower-bionic-doesnt-count-as-lighting-fire-for-purposes-of-pyromania-disad/18743/3 "2019-02-09T22:18:02Z")

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Looks like I was wrong; I thought there were separate morale bonuses for lighting a fire and standing close to a fire. Oops.

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**Author:** ![kuros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kuros/32/1788_2.png) [@kuros](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kuros)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 5:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/using-mini-flamethrower-bionic-doesnt-count-as-lighting-fire-for-purposes-of-pyromania-disad/18743/4 "2019-02-10T05:50:57Z")

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I’m playing a pyro right now and I get a bonus for lighting fires as well as being near one.

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**Author:** ![VIVIT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/vivit/32/4431_2.png) [@VIVIT](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/VIVIT)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/using-mini-flamethrower-bionic-doesnt-count-as-lighting-fire-for-purposes-of-pyromania-disad/18743/5 "2019-02-13T17:51:21Z")

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Yeah, I’ve been playing a lot of pyromaniacs lately and it looks like I wasn’t just imagining things.

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**Author:** ![Damnit-Jenkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/damnit-jenkins/32/4323_2.png) [@Damnit-Jenkins](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Damnit-Jenkins)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/using-mini-flamethrower-bionic-doesnt-count-as-lighting-fire-for-purposes-of-pyromania-disad/18743/6 "2019-02-14T16:29:53Z")

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Also play a pyro. Last i looked its +10 for lighting fires, +5 for hanging out near one.

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**Author:** ![kuros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kuros/32/1788_2.png) [@kuros](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kuros)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 10:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/using-mini-flamethrower-bionic-doesnt-count-as-lighting-fire-for-purposes-of-pyromania-disad/18743/7 "2019-02-14T22:50:08Z")

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Strangely, the pyromania doesn’t seem to actually be affected by the size of the fire, I’ll get “it isn’t enough” messages regardless of how much material I’m setting fire to.

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**Author:** ![Damnit-Jenkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/damnit-jenkins/32/4323_2.png) [@Damnit-Jenkins](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Damnit-Jenkins)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 3:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/using-mini-flamethrower-bionic-doesnt-count-as-lighting-fire-for-purposes-of-pyromania-disad/18743/8 "2019-02-20T03:03:21Z")

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I think that Pyromania should also make one wander around with some method of fire making at all times or suffer a penalty.

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**Author:** ![VIVIT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/vivit/32/4431_2.png) [@VIVIT](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/VIVIT)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/using-mini-flamethrower-bionic-doesnt-count-as-lighting-fire-for-purposes-of-pyromania-disad/18743/9 "2019-02-22T00:08:09Z")

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I’ve always thought pyromaniacs should start with a matchbook.