# Upset

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upset/13502>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [March 8, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upset/13502 "2017-03-08T16:44:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Wardenn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/wardenn/32/384_2.png) [@Wardenn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wardenn)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upset/13502/1 "2017-03-08T16:44:05Z")

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[center]One of you must be spying on my game or something. I literally just found all the construction books so I could raise my construction up…

Then this happened.  
 ![](http://i.imgur.com/NOYUXM4.png)

Gee thanks.

![](http://i.imgur.com/TOO0lbk.png)[/center]

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**Author:** ![Coolthulhu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/coolthulhu/32/2446_2.png) [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upset/13502/2 "2017-03-08T16:47:12Z")

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Now you have fabrication books.

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**Author:** ![Wardenn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/wardenn/32/384_2.png) [@Wardenn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wardenn)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upset/13502/3 "2017-03-08T16:52:40Z")

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> [@Coolthulhu](#):
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> Now you have fabrication books.

Fabrication was already where I wanted it :C

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upset/13502/4 "2017-03-08T17:38:46Z")

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> [@Wardenn](#):
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> Fabrication was already where I wanted it :C

Congratulations!

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**Author:** ![deoxy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@deoxy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/deoxy)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upset/13502/5 "2017-03-08T21:57:24Z")

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Whoa, construction is being merged into fabrication? That seems… big. Any particular reason?

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upset/13502/6 "2017-03-08T22:03:35Z")

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See this [Github issue](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/17826)

tl;dr: Building didnt offer enough benefits to warrant its own skill.

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**Author:** ![Random\_dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4da419/32.png) [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upset/13502/7 "2017-03-08T22:14:50Z")

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Aw. Would’ve been useful if trenchworks and fighting positions were a thing. FM 5-103 (or 5-15) FTW.

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**Author:** ![saltmummy626](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/saltmummy626/32/300_2.png) [@saltmummy626](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/saltmummy626)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upset/13502/8 "2017-03-09T01:33:27Z")

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[quote=“John Candlebury, post:6, topic:13502”]See this [Github issue](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/17826)

tl;dr: Building didnt offer enough benefits to warrant its own skill.[/quote]  
Huh, I guess yeah. It was mostly one of those things I always did simply because “I WAN A BAES!” and not because “THIS IS EASILY DEFENSIBLE!” The best defense I ever had wasn’t even one of the rockwall/brickwall options either. It was mutating into a spider and then weaving a thick web over the top of a chain link fence. The zombies always just walked on past and never bothered to investigate the silk wall in front of them.

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**Author:** ![CK\_Kirbi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ck_kirbi/32/584_2.png) [@CK\_Kirbi](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CK_Kirbi)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upset/13502/9 "2017-03-09T02:39:16Z")

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[quote=“saltmummy626, post:8, topic:13502”][quote=“John Candlebury, post:6, topic:13502”]See this [Github issue](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/17826)

tl;dr: Building didnt offer enough benefits to warrant its own skill.[/quote]  
Huh, I guess yeah. It was mostly one of those things I always did simply because “I WAN A BAES!” and not because “THIS IS EASILY DEFENSIBLE!” The best defense I ever had wasn’t even one of the rockwall/brickwall options either. It was mutating into a spider and then weaving a thick web over the top of a chain link fence. The zombies always just walked on past and never bothered to investigate the silk wall in front of them.[/quote]

That’s freaking brilliant.

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**Author:** ![TheWumpus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thewumpus/32/263_2.png) [@TheWumpus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheWumpus)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upset/13502/10 "2017-03-09T03:12:42Z")

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So I won’t need to grind pit digging 101 and couch building 202 to make a bed or dig a well anymore? Sweet.