# Upgrading my camp survey from bare bones (lack shelter kits?)

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upgrading-my-camp-survey-from-bare-bones-lack-shelter-kits/19967>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [May 4, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upgrading-my-camp-survey-from-bare-bones-lack-shelter-kits/19967 "2019-05-04T17:06:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cynicus26](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/cynicus26/32/4998_2.png) [@Cynicus26](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cynicus26)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upgrading-my-camp-survey-from-bare-bones-lack-shelter-kits/19967/1 "2019-05-04T17:06:15Z")

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I’m testing the camp system in a separate file before I go buggering up my current save file. I created the camp survey but I can’t figure out how to perform the first upgrade (“Upgrade Camp”). The game says I lack shelter kits but I debugged them in, so I’m not sure what’s wrong.

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**Author:** ![Creeperus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/creeperus/32/1431_2.png) [@Creeperus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Creeperus)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upgrading-my-camp-survey-from-bare-bones-lack-shelter-kits/19967/2 "2019-05-04T17:19:12Z")

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you need to drop them and have line of sight when you choice upgrade

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**Author:** ![dpwb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/dpwb/32/2609_2.png) [@dpwb](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dpwb)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upgrading-my-camp-survey-from-bare-bones-lack-shelter-kits/19967/3 "2019-05-05T19:33:16Z")

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Shouldnt need line of sight.  
Camp checks for range of 20 squares around it’s unsorted sorting zone.  
whether the player can see the items or not , it’ll still show as available for crafting if they are there. ( this was essential to get remote camp upgrades working )

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**Author:** ![Cynicus26](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/cynicus26/32/4998_2.png) [@Cynicus26](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cynicus26)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upgrading-my-camp-survey-from-bare-bones-lack-shelter-kits/19967/4 "2019-05-05T19:34:41Z")

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I forgot to mention I’m using a slightly outdated build. It seems every day someone is complaining about a crash, and I can’t go getting a consensus every day on what the latest “stable” experimental release is.

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**Author:** ![Mantar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mantar/32/42_2.png) [@Mantar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mantar)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/upgrading-my-camp-survey-from-bare-bones-lack-shelter-kits/19967/5 "2019-05-05T19:49:36Z")

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Yeah, the latest stable is 0.D stable, experimental is very experimental right now. Having a proper stable release freed people to start making big changes that they’ve had on hold in the run-up to 0.D, so experimental’s really in flux currently.