# Unknown "BLEED" thingy

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [July 12, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149 "2020-07-12T12:30:53Z")
**Posts on this page:** 15
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### Author: ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/1 "2020-07-12T12:30:53Z")

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im not sure whats going on here but so far im just going through secronom JSONs deleting every “BLEED” reference I can find, if this isnt right then hmu but if it actually gets my save working again then imma power onward

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### Author: ![GiggleGrassGatherer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/gigglegrassgatherer/32/7743_2.png) [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/2 "2020-07-12T13:00:24Z")

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Yup. With blood overhaul merged, monster “bleed” flag is now obsolete. It’s not game bug, it’s just the mod wasn’t updated.

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### Author: ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/3 "2020-07-12T13:01:33Z")

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should I keep deleting or is the mod updated?

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### Author: ![GiggleGrassGatherer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/gigglegrassgatherer/32/7743_2.png) [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/4 "2020-07-12T13:03:13Z")

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Well, you may try updating and if it is still throwing errors then it means the mod is not updated so you have to fix it yourself.

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### Author: ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/5 "2020-07-12T13:06:23Z")

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the latest secronom update is from 11 hours ago, would that work?  
Im cautious to do that cause ive already spent an hour working this out and dont wanna have to redo half of this  
ctrl+f does not seem to work in notepad most of the time for some reason so this is taking a while

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### Author: ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/6 "2020-07-12T13:07:06Z")

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eh im halfway through ill do it myself

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### Author: ![GiggleGrassGatherer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/gigglegrassgatherer/32/7743_2.png) [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/7 "2020-07-12T13:14:04Z")

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> [@Ness](#):
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> notepad

…you mean…like… in… regular Notepad? opening (and replacing in) each file separately? 😱  
In Notepad++ it would be done in 3 “replace in files” actions.

Anyway, it seems Secronom is not a mainline mod so you better ask its author directly about bringing it in line with blood overhaul.

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### Author: ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/8 "2020-07-12T13:17:05Z")

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also I tried restoring a previous version before all this but as you can see that didnt work, how does that work? wouldnt it restore the game to a version where this isnt an issue?

theres a difference? and yes each and every file scrolling down and finding every “BLEED” reference I can find and removing them with two quick ctrl+backspace

imma download note++ now

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### Author: ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/9 "2020-07-12T13:22:30Z")

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can I get a quick dummy thicc tutorial on how to do this in the super appealing way you mentioned, preferably for someone who is viewing this software through virgin eyes

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### Author: ![GiggleGrassGatherer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/gigglegrassgatherer/32/7743_2.png) [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/10 "2020-07-12T13:27:40Z")

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When you get np++:

- open any json file in the mod folder
- press Ctrl-H
- switch to “find in files” tab
- find what: `"BLEED", `, `, "BLEED"` and `"BLEED"` - 3 different replaces because it can be at the beginning, at the end or even be a single flag(not sure about the last one but who knows)
- replace with: leave empty
- filters: `*.json`
- directory: should be something like `moddir/monsters`, or wherever monster data is stored in Secronom’s folder.
- match case: yes.

Now 3 replaces via “replace in files” button, 1 for each version of “BLEED”, and it’s done.

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### Author: ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/11 "2020-07-12T13:32:27Z")

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fingers crossed that I did it right

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### Author: ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/12 "2020-07-12T13:39:08Z")

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wound up getting the same error but with a couple of “^” or something and i thik thats because of my manual meddling so imma reinstall the mod and repeat the steps you gave

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### Author: ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/13 "2020-07-12T13:52:54Z")

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so secronom is fixed atleast 😃  
Im guessing I need to update all manually installed mods?

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### Author: ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/14 "2020-07-12T13:54:09Z")

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quick list of my active mods in case that helps idk

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### Author: ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unknown-bleed-thingy/24149/15 "2020-07-12T14:38:28Z")

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ok I got it working  
the erroneous “,” that was left over was because I didnt follow your steps in the order you specified, my bad, but luckily there was literally only one instance that required fixing manually and now ‘hopefully’ all is good  
the game is running and I can get back to fixxing up my apc

thank you so much for your help and sorry for the bother \<3
