# Unboxing snacks saves volume

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [June 10, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688 "2013-06-10T04:57:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Slax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/slax/32/5385_2.png) [@Slax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Slax)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/1 "2013-06-10T04:57:39Z")

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Unloaded a box of veggie pizza. Seems the pizza itself doesn’t have any volume, plus the description still stated it as being boxed.  
Same goes for chips. Probably more as well.

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### Author: ![Pthalocy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@Pthalocy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pthalocy)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2013, 5:26am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/2 "2013-06-10T05:26:34Z")

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Omg I did not know that. Potato-chip-y ammo.

This seems like a silly thing to do unless you need the cardboard before you need the food. I don’t know what for, flammables are easy enough to find.

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### Author: ![Slax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/slax/32/5385_2.png) [@Slax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Slax)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2013, 5:36am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/3 "2013-06-10T05:36:56Z")

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Why carry a big box around when you can stack slices and save space? That was my reasoning. Worthwhile endeavor.

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### Author: ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2013, 5:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/4 "2013-06-10T05:43:44Z")

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Unpack pizzas, stack like CDs. You have now created a delicious (if unhealthy) layered cylinder of pizza-y delight, unfettered by the euclidean constraints of cardboard oppression!

What’s even ickier is walking around for three days with a slice in your pocket, then whipping it out and brushing the lint off, saying, ‘good enough’ before eating it.

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### Author: ![Pthalocy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@Pthalocy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pthalocy)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2013, 6:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/5 "2013-06-10T06:54:07Z")

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> What's even ickier is walking around for three days with a slice in your pocket, then whipping it out and brushing the lint off, saying, 'good enough' before eating it.

Yeah, I stopped thinking like a survivor there and thought 'NO BOX? HOW SILLY."

Though realistically if this is do-able with sugar, that’s … good luck with holding that.

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### Author: ![Williham](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/williham/32/845_2.png) [@Williham](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Williham)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2013, 7:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/6 "2013-06-10T07:16:03Z")

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[quote=“Pthalocy, post:5, topic:1688”]

> What’s even ickier is walking around for three days with a slice in your pocket, then whipping it out and brushing the lint off, saying, ‘good enough’ before eating it.

Yeah, I stopped thinking like a survivor there and thought 'NO BOX? HOW SILLY."

Though realistically if this is do-able with sugar, that’s … good luck with holding that.[/quote]

[Scorpio can!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VX4Lpf-xdg)

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### Author: ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2013, 7:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/7 "2013-06-10T07:17:23Z")

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> Though realistically if this is do-able with sugar, that's .... good luck with holding that.

Just make sure to store it in a different pocket from all of your illicit powdered substances.  
Don’t want to end up accidentally snorting a rail of fructose in the middle of battle; it’s bad form and it probably doesn’t do much for your speed rating.

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### Author: ![Williham](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/williham/32/845_2.png) [@Williham](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Williham)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2013, 7:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/8 "2013-06-10T07:18:37Z")

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[quote=“Rivet, post:7, topic:1688”]

> Though realistically if this is do-able with sugar, that’s … good luck with holding that.

Just make sure to store it in a different pocket from all of your illicit powdered substances.  
Don’t want to end up accidentally snorting a rail of fructose in the middle of battle; it’s bad form and it probably doesn’t do much for your speed rating.[/quote]

On the other hand, a line of coke in the morning coffee really puts a spring in your step!

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### Author: ![Slax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/slax/32/5385_2.png) [@Slax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Slax)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/9 "2013-06-10T19:48:31Z")

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Yup, just filled my pockets with non-spatial sugar.

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### Author: ![grisamentum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/65b543/32.png) [@grisamentum](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/grisamentum)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/10 "2013-06-10T21:32:52Z")

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Yeah, I noticed this last night with beef jerky. Typically it comes in a bag but I kept crafting it and making jerky with 0 volume. I considered putting it in a bag but I figured it was a waste of a perfectly good bag.

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### Author: ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/11 "2013-06-10T23:21:16Z")

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> [@grisamentum](#):
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> Yeah, I noticed this last night with beef jerky. Typically it comes in a bag but I kept crafting it and making jerky with 0 volume. I considered putting it in a bag but I figured it was a waste of a perfectly good bag.

And this is why I discourage vacc-packing meat slices. Takes the same amount of salt but adds volume.

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### Author: ![Pthalocy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@Pthalocy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pthalocy)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/12 "2013-06-11T03:52:46Z")

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Non-spatial sugar oh damn. At least liquids aren’t affected by this (I would totally keep pocket-coffees).

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### Author: ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/13 "2013-06-11T04:28:34Z")

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Pockets full of loose pizza, sugar, drugs, and beverages.  
All I can say is it’s not going to be good eats when you finally get around to digging that stuff out for dinner.

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### Author: ![Slax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/slax/32/5385_2.png) [@Slax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Slax)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2013, 5:21am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/14 "2013-06-11T05:21:48Z")

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Just take your pants off, cook them in a large stew pot, let them dry, put them back on and dig in! Very handy and requires very little cooking skill! It’s a sort of surprise craft.

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### Author: ![Pthalocy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@Pthalocy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pthalocy)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/15 "2013-06-11T05:28:49Z")

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Cafeteria mystery soup: secrets revealed.

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### Author: ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2013, 5:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/16 "2013-06-11T05:56:08Z")

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“Tonight we’re having ‘loaf’ and ‘soup’ for dinner, kids!”

“Ewww! I found a bone in mine. No wait. Sorry, false alarm; it was just a crack rock.”

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### Author: ![halberdsturgeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7ab992/32.png) [@halberdsturgeon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/halberdsturgeon)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2013, 6:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/17 "2013-06-11T06:31:51Z")

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Works with anything in a container, but not always to any advantage.

If you take some SPAM out of a tin can, for example, it adds 1 volume to your inventory (the SPAM weighs as much out of the tin can as it does inside of it, and an empty tin can has a volume of 1, weight 0). The SPAM never goes off whether it’s inside of a can or not.

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### Author: ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2013, 6:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/18 "2013-06-11T06:40:27Z")

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Ick. That’s wrong on so many levels.

Contrary to popular belief, both SPAM and Twinkies will eventually go bad in real life.  
I’m not arguing that it will in Cataclysm, mind you. I just thought I’d throw that into the discussion before the inevitable post reading ‘Hurrr durr just like in real life!’

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### Author: ![halberdsturgeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7ab992/32.png) [@halberdsturgeon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/halberdsturgeon)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2013, 7:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/19 "2013-06-11T07:00:51Z")

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It’s because the game assumes it’s always either eaten or inside a tin can, therefore the base consumable simply never spoils. Same applies to beans, ravioli, etc.

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### Author: ![grisamentum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/65b543/32.png) [@grisamentum](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/grisamentum)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unboxing-snacks-saves-volume/1688/20 "2013-06-11T19:32:37Z")

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Huh. So pizza will never go bad after being unboxed?

I mean, I know cooked meat will… since I never put it in a container in the first place.

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