# Turrets not spawning on vehicles?
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/turrets-not-spawning-on-vehicles/15402
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [May 2, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/turrets-not-spawning-on-vehicles/15402 "2018-05-02T21:41:29Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/turrets-not-spawning-on-vehicles/15402/1 "2018-05-02T21:41:29Z")
Since this seems to be a problem I’m experiencing myself, I decided to make a post about it. Basically, whenever I find a vehicle that should have turrets mounted on it, it simply has empty turret mounts. Every time. Even if I spawn it in from the debug menu.
The exceptions are for Tank Guns and 30mm Autocannons, which appear when spawned in for some reason.
Anyone have any idea to why this is?
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### Author:  [@Zhilkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zhilkin)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/turrets-not-spawning-on-vehicles/15402/2 "2018-05-02T21:45:32Z")
Is that a duplicate?
> [@Problems with the New Turret mechanics](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problems-with-the-new-turret-mechanics/15369):
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> First off, none of the vehicles with Turret Mounts are actually spawning any weapons. I’ve encountered plenty of military vehicles, but no military weapons mounted on those vehicles. Second, I can’t mount A7 Laser Rifles on those turret mounts. These have consistently been the best mountable turrets for me because they draw off my vehicle’s energy instead of a usually very limited supply of ammo and can be configured to fire a single shot at a time. I’d be using those Machine Guns if they had a…
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### Author:  [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/turrets-not-spawning-on-vehicles/15402/3 "2018-05-02T21:47:46Z")
If you’re asking if this was unintentional, it wasn’t. If you look at the sections, that’s a Garage post, while this is a Bunker post. Originally, I had thought these problems were inherent with the system. But I was told that these were problems I was facing.
So I decided to make a new post, because the nature of the problem (and the problem itself) had changed.
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### Author:  [@techincal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/techincal)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/turrets-not-spawning-on-vehicles/15402/4 "2018-05-03T04:22:30Z")
It should be fairly obvious what the problem is when you’re using a broken mod like ascension that uses forked versions of blazemod and PKR that haven’t been updated properly.
I can’t imagine you even being able to load the world without the game throwing a fit.
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### Author:  [@FurryDegenerate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FurryDegenerate)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/turrets-not-spawning-on-vehicles/15402/5 "2018-05-03T13:06:23Z")
Yeah, it might b e ascension. I have the same problem with it installed.