# Translations WTF-2022+ Thread (currently: rock for both music and stones)
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202
**Category:** Translations Team Discussion
**Created:** [May 30, 2019, 8:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202 "2019-05-30T08:29:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
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### Author:  [@Victor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Victor)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2019, 8:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/1 "2019-05-30T08:29:10Z")
> This thread is for asking about any bizarre strings you don’t know how to translate.
> So if you come across anything weird or confusing while translating, post here, and hopefully someone will be able to clarify.
## Previous [WTF-thread](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-wtf-thread/2519) was last posted over 3 years ago, so I suggest to start new one.
in Transifex master-cataclysm-dda I see similar names for batteries, e.g.:
“light battery” and “light battery cell”. And the description for them seems to be the same, the text has folowing DEVELOPER NOTES: “~ Description for light battery ~ Description for light battery cell”.
Are they two different entities, or maybe one of items is obsolete? Do I need to translate both?
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### Author:  [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/2 "2019-05-30T13:13:25Z")
Though I do not code. Could be best to translate each object individually to avoid programming errors when objects overlap.
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### Author:  [@Victor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Victor)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2019, 8:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/3 "2019-10-08T08:20:02Z")
in master-cataclysm-dda (Transifex) I see 2 similar strings:
“You have no butchering tool.” #32276
“You don’t have a butchering tool.” #23398
Can we combine them somehow into one entity? Or let’s add a comment/note for translators if these two are different, to make them able to distinguish between meanings?
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### Author:  [@KorGgenT](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KorGgenT)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/4 "2019-10-08T13:53:19Z")
I actually can’t find where in the code “You don’t have a butchering tool.” exists. So it’s probably not feasible to combine them. There isn’t a difference in their meaning, either.
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### Author:  [@Victor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Victor)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2019, 2:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/5 "2019-10-11T14:33:56Z")
There are multiple similar strings for gorwing pots, e.g.
“garden pots (growing oats)” #7586
“garden pots (growing buckwheat)” #7576
And so on. Is there a way to split and unify those strings? Something like that -
“garden pots (%1)”,
“growing %1”,
“ripe %1”
and then just insert oats, buckwheat and carrot in code? It could reduce number of strings and simplify translation
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### Author:  [@Midas](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Midas)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2019, 7:10am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/6 "2019-10-12T07:10:39Z")
+1 to this. There are also numerous basecamp strings like “northeast tent, northwest bed, we should build northwest tent, we should build southwest shack from metal, we should build southwest room from wood”. It it possible to reform them in the same way?
%1 %2 (where %1 is a location, %2 is a building) from %3 (%3 is a material).
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### Author:  [@Victor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Victor)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/7 "2019-10-25T13:33:12Z")
I’ve noticed that now zombie type names now have plurals (e.g. acidic zombie, acidic zombies etc.), while in previous “0.D-cataclysm-dda” pack there were only singular names (“acidic zombie”, and that’s all for this type).
Please confirm that this is expected change and everything is OK 🙂
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### Author:  [@Victor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Victor)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/8 "2020-11-03T14:38:41Z")
Why for “pair of expensive flip-flops” - on transifex “other” form is “pairs of flip-flops”? Should it be “pairs of **expensive** flip-flops”?
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### Author:  [@Victor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Victor)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/9 "2020-11-03T15:26:38Z")
I see two descriptions for ‘golden crown’, looks like it is a duplicate:
- A delicate golden crown featuring flowering trees.
- A golden crown for the monarch of survivors.
They both refer to the same item, according to Dev.notes:
DEVELOPER NOTES
~ Description for {‘str’: ‘golden crown’}
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### Author:  [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/10 "2020-11-03T16:41:16Z")
different items, see json/items/armor/misc.json:
```
{
"id": "crown_golden",
"type": "ARMOR",
"name": { "str": "golden crown" },
"description": "A delicate golden crown featuring flowering trees.",
"weight": "1000 g",
"volume": "1 L",
"price": 30000,
"price_postapoc": 100,
"material": ["gold"],
"symbol": "[",
"looks_like": "hat_cotton",
"color": "yellow",
"covers": ["head"],
"coverage": 30,
"encumbrance": 20,
"material_thickness": 2,
"flags": ["SUPER_FANCY"]
},
{
"id": "crown_golden_survivor",
"type": "ARMOR",
"name": { "str": "golden crown" },
"description": "A golden crown for the monarch of survivors.",
"weight": "1000 g",
"volume": "1 L",
"price": 30000,
"price_postapoc": 150,
"material": ["gold"],
"symbol": "[",
"looks_like": "crown_golden",
"color": "yellow",
"covers": ["head"],
"coverage": 30,
"encumbrance": 20,
"material_thickness": 2,
"flags": ["FANCY"]
}
```
First can spawn in museums and… “vault” itemgroup? I guess it’s mansion vaults? Anyway, second is craftable-only.
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### Author:  [@Victor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Victor)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/11 "2020-11-03T16:47:10Z")
Thanks.
Maybe these two items should have different names if they are not the same? Like “ancient gold crown” and/or “makeshift gold crown”?
Or at least we need some notes for translators, to make it clear that there are two different items.
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### Author:  [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/12 "2020-11-03T16:50:26Z")
You can make an issue on github, or make a PR straight away. It’s just json editing, after all.
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### Author:  [@Noctivagante](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Noctivagante)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/13 "2020-11-18T23:06:39Z")
Does anyone know what they mean with “_unarmed weapon_”?
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### Author:  [@zantanzuken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zantanzuken)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/14 "2020-11-18T23:39:43Z")
weapons that you use in lieu of your fists, i.e. brass knuckles, fist wraps, etc.
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### Author:  [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2020, 10:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/15 "2020-11-19T10:19:20Z")
Monoblade is counted as unarmed too. There’s also a [list](http://cdda-trunk.chezzo.com/flags/UNARMED_WEAPON) of unarmed weapons on chezzo.
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### Author:  [@Victor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Victor)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/16 "2022-09-06T15:35:23Z")
Current “rock” string in transifex (#9122) is used for both throwing stones and music genre:
~ Item name
~ Snippet in category “\”
We need to separate them, since in other languages it has separate translations.
I want to be able to set 2 different translations in Ukrainian: “камінь” for those a character can throw and “рок” (рок-музика) for a music genre that a character can listen in mp3-player.
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### Author:  [@Noctivagante](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Noctivagante)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2022, 5:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/translations-wtf-2022-thread-currently-rock-for-both-music-and-stones/20202/17 "2022-09-07T05:25:27Z")
Yes, we have the same issue in Spanish…