# Traits; Need Rebalanced?
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/traits-need-rebalanced/8764
**Category:** The Drawing Board
**Created:** [January 26, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/traits-need-rebalanced/8764 "2015-01-26T17:21:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/traits-need-rebalanced/8764/21 "2015-01-28T00:08:03Z")
> [@Packbat](#):
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> [quote=“Coolthulhu, post:12, topic:8764”]If it was up to me, I’d remove both the Tough Feet trait and the requirement to wear shoes to gain full speed. Not wearing shoes is enough of a problem already, no need to add an extra walking speed debuff on top of that. Plus, it’s not really realistic - realism would be gaining pain and random damage when walking over rough terrain, not having running speed lowered.
Now that you mention it … why don’t people suffer penalties for wearing ill-fitting shoes?[/quote]
If the shoes have Encumbrance, they do!
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### Author:  [@Barhandar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Barhandar)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/traits-need-rebalanced/8764/22 "2015-01-28T03:10:41Z")
[quote=“Coolthulhu, post:19, topic:8764”]Because no one implemented them.
Plus, it happens in 'Murka and 'Murkans haet mass transit.[/quote]
New England’s got quite a bit of railroads, and besides, there’s freight trains.
[quote=“Coolthulhu, post:19, topic:8764”]Why mud?
Other than that, I agree. Though I’d rather see “damage” as “pain and occasionally 1 hp hits to one of the feet” than just damage.[/quote]
Swamp soil, simulating the feet getting bogged down and slipping and the like. Pain would work well, yes.
> [@KA101](#):
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> If the shoes have Encumbrance, they do!
Not even close to the effect wearing ill-fitting shoes does, though. A little bit harder to move against often-excruating pain and constant blistering. In comparsion terms, I move significantly faster in flip-flops (En 4) than I did in very ill-fitting winter boots (En 2) that had the leather edge constantly hitting my lateral malleouses.
…speaking of these winter boots, how do I cobble… and does anyone know how to soften already-vulcanized rubber soles? My other pair’s got rock hard soles, which is really, really counterproductive for walking on ice.
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### Author:  [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/traits-need-rebalanced/8764/23 "2015-03-17T03:44:58Z")
Bumping because I recently sent a PR with some of those changes included.
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I won’t paste the changes here, because it’s quite long. I summed up all the proposed changes in the PR description.
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