# Training dummy/Practice target?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/training-dummy-practice-target/12561>\
**Category:** The Lab\
**Created:** [September 21, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/training-dummy-practice-target/12561 "2016-09-21T02:27:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Gaelstrom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Gaelstrom](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gaelstrom)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/training-dummy-practice-target/12561/1 "2016-09-21T02:27:39Z")

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I can sort of understand that, in the development build you can’t build your archery skill by shooting at a wall, but I feel like, at least to a certain level, you outta be able to train shooting stats outside of actual combat.

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**Author:** ![pisskop](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/pisskop/32/1327_2.png) [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/training-dummy-practice-target/12561/2 "2016-09-21T02:55:24Z")

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just firing a gun trains that skill

afa melee… i would claim theres too much skill gain for most skills as is. too many mons too

but perhaps there is merit to traing [weapon] skill when smashing?

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**Author:** ![Profugo\_Barbatus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@Profugo\_Barbatus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Profugo_Barbatus)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 6:45am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/training-dummy-practice-target/12561/3 "2016-09-21T06:45:35Z")

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[quote=“pisskop, post:2, topic:12561”]just firing a gun trains that skill

afa melee… i would claim theres too much skill gain for most skills as is. too many mons too

but perhaps there is merit to traing [weapon] skill when smashing?[/quote]

Smashing is generally about applying as much force as possible to a target, and doesn’t train the things weapon skills seem to represent, which is technique and handling skills. Maybe if the gain was extremely low, to make it a viable way to get to skill 1-2 (when your just learning to recover from strikes and what-not) but It’d still feel weird to me.

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**Author:** ![Litppunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/litppunk/32/409_2.png) [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/training-dummy-practice-target/12561/4 "2016-09-21T18:05:22Z")

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up to 1-2 I can understand, as thats would be the “how do I even hold this thing?” and confidence levels. Have you ever seen someone pick up an item they never used before? They look SOO awkward 1/2 the time, balance is way off on how its held, if its something with a “right way forward” like an axe or hammer etc… especially the heavier items, they tend to end up 1/4 turn or so by the time the object hits. If they are not used to holding an object in a weapon/smashing fashion, they often swing in such a way that all their joints are out of sync and have almost no power comparatively when it gets there.

So I would understand if that becomes a thing

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**Author:** ![pisskop](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/pisskop/32/1327_2.png) [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/training-dummy-practice-target/12561/5 "2016-09-21T18:15:35Z")

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By the time Im safe enough to craft more than a turban/handwraps/footwraps and cook meat Im well out of melee 1/2.

this looks like a way into a scabbard/sheath

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**Author:** ![Chezzo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/chezzo/32/429_2.png) [@Chezzo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Chezzo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/training-dummy-practice-target/12561/6 "2016-09-22T02:31:55Z")

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You can get a pet dog, go in to a bathroom with him, wear as many duffel bags and backpacks and whatnot as you can, and wail on the poor guy like you had a bad day at work.

Raises your melee, and whatever weapon you have, plus unarmed.