# Tips, Tricks, and Newb Questions!

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [January 3, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42 "2013-01-03T03:04:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Iosyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/iosyn/32/35_2.png) [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1521 "2013-09-01T16:44:11Z")

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[quote=“DG123, post:1520, topic:42”]Also… does the “Still” do anything? I can’t seem to make any alcohol except cider from apples, and that doesn’t even require it.

I’m lacking a source of medicinal alcohol at the moment. Version 7.1[/quote]

Apple cider ingame now isn’t an alcoholic cider.  
It’s an american name for juice. Apple juice.

[Crazy americans. Even the wiki says it’s true.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cider)

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**Author:** ![DG123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/54ee81/32.png) [@DG123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DG123)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1522 "2013-09-01T16:48:10Z")

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That…

God damn it America.

WHAT DO THEY CALL ACTUAL CIDER?

Anyway, is there no way to make alcohol then? Why is the Still IN GAME if it can’t be used? Fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu

Anyway, new issue. Does anyone know which books actually contain crafting recipes? I want to make sure I don’t miss any.

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**Author:** ![keldoclock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e19b73/32.png) [@keldoclock](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/keldoclock)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1523 "2013-09-01T22:00:45Z")

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We call booze made from apples “hard cider”

For an American, “Apple Juice” is a sugary viscous liquid that mostly small children drink, cider is pressed apples, and hard cider is what you’re thinking of.

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**Author:** ![ZombiLoin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/2acd7d/32.png) [@ZombiLoin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ZombiLoin)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1524 "2013-09-02T01:13:28Z")

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How long does it take you to die from hunger or thirst?

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**Author:** ![detahramet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/detahramet/32/58_2.png) [@detahramet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/detahramet)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 1:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1525 "2013-09-02T01:18:10Z")

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Long enough to smack into a squirel at mach 10 and butcher the gibblets

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**Author:** ![Mrnocamera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mrnocamera/32/61_2.png) [@Mrnocamera](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mrnocamera)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 10:41am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1526 "2013-09-02T10:41:07Z")

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Mach 10? I hit a fucking zombie at the speed of light. I had a party in Russia that day.

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**Author:** ![Rookrune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Rookrune](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rookrune)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1527 "2013-09-02T18:43:47Z")

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Whats a good way to train mechanics without a book?

It used to be making screwdrivers, but that got pushed to fabrication.

I know picking locks can give ya some exp in it, but the exp given is dirt poor. (I think it needs a buff)

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1528 "2013-09-02T18:44:55Z")

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Remove all boards from cars, you gonna need them for armor and it will raise mechanics.

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**Author:** ![DG123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/54ee81/32.png) [@DG123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DG123)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1529 "2013-09-02T21:25:47Z")

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Speaking of armour, how does one best armour a vehicle? Do you need to make multiple layers of frames and put metal plates on each one?

Also how do you use the Blades and spikes (not spiked plating)?

And how about incoming bullets? I’m not clear on how well metal plates protect the driver. I suppose you’re basically screwed if someone shoots your windscreen?

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1530 "2013-09-02T21:54:16Z")

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Ye gods, DG.  
THATS FUCKING BRILLANT  
+1 internet cookie to DG.  
As for the blades/spikes, put them on the front of your car. They do not require a frame or board.

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**Author:** ![DG123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/54ee81/32.png) [@DG123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DG123)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1531 "2013-09-02T21:59:40Z")

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I’m still a bit lost as to using frames. Why are there so many different shapes to choose from when building one on the vehicle? Isn’t the functionality identical?

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**Author:** ![kilozombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@kilozombie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kilozombie)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1532 "2013-09-02T22:01:49Z")

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For visual sake?

That way cars can actually look like the lines merge together, therefore being more cohesive and car-like.

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**Author:** ![DG123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/54ee81/32.png) [@DG123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DG123)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1533 "2013-09-02T22:07:24Z")

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OH. Wait, so the shape is determined by those? I see. I was thinking it would be the boards for some reason.  
DERP

Whoops.

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**Author:** ![kilozombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@kilozombie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kilozombie)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 10:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1534 "2013-09-02T22:08:46Z")

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What?

No, they’re all functionally identical- just different looking. Same with boards, except they’re opaque.

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1535 "2013-09-02T22:11:20Z")

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And can’t see through them.

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**Author:** ![kilozombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@kilozombie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kilozombie)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1536 "2013-09-02T22:15:23Z")

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(that’s what opaque means)

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**Author:** ![DG123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/54ee81/32.png) [@DG123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DG123)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1537 "2013-09-02T22:18:40Z")

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Speaking of can’t see through them, what’s the deal with turrets on a vehicle shooting the driver of said vehicle?

And just how exactly would you go about making a vehicle that you can see out of which you can’t get shot while driving?

Is that even possible?

AND HOW THE HELL DID A WOLF JUST GET INTO MY RV?

It seems enemies can come through the wall, at least where my solar panels are. But I have boards up so why did that happen?

Note that I have it parked at a slightly odd angle so the solar panel tiles are diagonal from each other. Perhaps that’s why I and the wolf could move through the “gap” diagonally. But this seems stupid.

Am I doing something wrong? There’s no “roof” on the same tile as the board, but should there be?

Maybe I do need the double thickness walls…

Also, regarding windshields… you can place them with steel plating on the same tile, right? So you end up with what? Effectively see through armour?  
Or not?

I’m trying to get some rear visibility on my RV…

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**Author:** ![post-itman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@post-itman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/post-itman)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1538 "2013-09-02T23:21:01Z")

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Uh, just joined the forums (this version of the forms, used to be on the old ones). Just explored my first mine, and I’m kind of lost. I had the spiral thingy and just got the vortex stones, used them, and threw the rocks at them until they died. Is that it? No cool boss or sweet loot?

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**Author:** ![Zireael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zireael/32/956_2.png) [@Zireael](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zireael)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 7:27am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1539 "2013-09-03T07:27:08Z")

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[quote=“DG123, post:1537, topic:42”]Speaking of can’t see through them, what’s the deal with turrets on a vehicle shooting the driver of said vehicle?

And just how exactly would you go about making a vehicle that you can see out of which you can’t get shot while driving?

Is that even possible?

AND HOW THE HELL DID A WOLF JUST GET INTO MY RV?

It seems enemies can come through the wall, at least where my solar panels are. But I have boards up so why did that happen?

Note that I have it parked at a slightly odd angle so the solar panel tiles are diagonal from each other. Perhaps that’s why I and the wolf could move through the “gap” diagonally. But this seems stupid.

Am I doing something wrong? There’s no “roof” on the same tile as the board, but should there be?

Maybe I do need the double thickness walls…

Also, regarding windshields… you can place them with steel plating on the same tile, right? So you end up with what? Effectively see through armour?  
Or not?

I’m trying to get some rear visibility on my RV…[/quote]

What version are you using?

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**Author:** ![Shadow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Shadow](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Shadow)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1540 "2013-09-03T14:31:55Z")

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I swear, Cataclysm is one of the few games that can kill you as easy in the beginning as it can much later on. I had the fusion blaster and was wiping out a Fema camp, I switched weapons to the Law rocket launcher and fire at a group of Zs but 1 of the soldier Zs just walked right through the blast and was chasing me down until it killed me.

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