# Tips, Tricks, and Newb Questions!
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [January 3, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42 "2013-01-03T03:04:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 667
### Author:  [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13322 "2016-02-03T15:31:52Z")
Does this look like a cemetery to you?
[spoiler]`
"object": {
"//" : "0 5 1 5 2 4",
"rows": [
"========================",
"= t$$$$$$$$$$$=",
"= # g ^ ^ ...........o",
"= ...........o",
"= g # ^ # ...........o",
"= ... $$$$$$ =",
"= ^ ^ ^ # ... $---0- =",
"= ... $-f>a- =",
"= ^ g ^ ^ ... $-,,,- =",
"= ... $--+-- =",
"= ^ # ^ ^ ... $$$.$$ =",
"=$ ........ =",
"=$ ... =",
"o.............. t t t t=",
"o.............. $ $ $ $=",
"o.............. t t t t=",
"=$ =",
"=$ =",
"= ^ # # ^ M M M =",
"= =",
"= =",
"= ^ ^ ^ M ^ M M =",
"=t =",
"========================"
],`
“terrain”: {
" “: [“t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_dirt”],
”#": “t\_dirtmound”,
“g”: “t\_grave\_head”
"^": “t\_grave\_stone”,
“M”: “t\_grave\_monument”,
“t”: “t\_tree”,
"$": “t\_shrub”,
"=": “t\_rock\_wall\_half”,
“o”: “t\_fencegate\_o”
"-": “t\_wall”,
",": “t\_floor”
"+": “t\_door\_locked”,
“0”: “t\_window\_domestic”,
".": “t\_dirt”
```
},
```
[/spoiler]
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### Author:  [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13323 "2016-02-03T15:32:29Z")
> [@Peregrin-E](#):
>
> And how is the power of large electric motor compared to power of a V8 engine?
Combustion engines all have power equal to 100\*engine displacement in liters. Engine displacement is that number in their name - for example, “15.0L V12 engine” has 1500 power.
Large electric motor has 350 power, enhanced one 400.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13324 "2016-02-03T16:38:28Z")
[quote=“pisskop, post:13322, topic:42”]Does this look like a cemetery to you?
[spoiler]`
"object": {
"//" : "0 5 1 5 2 4",
"rows": [
"========================",
"= t$$$$$$$$$$$=",
"= # g ^ ^ ...........o",
"= ...........o",
"= g # ^ # ...........o",
"= ... $$$$$$ =",
"= ^ ^ ^ # ... $---0- =",
"= ... $-f>a- =",
"= ^ g ^ ^ ... $-,,,- =",
"= ... $--+-- =",
"= ^ # ^ ^ ... $$$.$$ =",
"=$ ........ =",
"=$ ... =",
"o.............. t t t t=",
"o.............. $ $ $ $=",
"o.............. t t t t=",
"=$ =",
"=$ =",
"= ^ # # ^ M M M =",
"= =",
"= =",
"= ^ ^ ^ M ^ M M =",
"=t =",
"========================"
],`
“terrain”: {
" “: [“t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_dirt”],
”#": “t\_dirtmound”,
“g”: “t\_grave\_head”
"^": “t\_grave\_stone”,
“M”: “t\_grave\_monument”,
“t”: “t\_tree”,
"$": “t\_shrub”,
"=": “t\_rock\_wall\_half”,
“o”: “t\_fencegate\_o”
"-": “t\_wall”,
",": “t\_floor”
"+": “t\_door\_locked”,
“0”: “t\_window\_domestic”,
".": “t\_dirt”
```
},
```
[/spoiler][/quote]
A tad on the small side, but looks decent. o.o
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### Author:  [@FrankyPlaysGames](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FrankyPlaysGames)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13325 "2016-02-03T16:51:33Z")
[quote=“pisskop, post:13322, topic:42”]Does this look like a cemetery to you?
[spoiler]`
"object": {
"//" : "0 5 1 5 2 4",
"rows": [
"========================",
"= t$$$$$$$$$$$=",
"= # g ^ ^ ...........o",
"= ...........o",
"= g # ^ # ...........o",
"= ... $$$$$$ =",
"= ^ ^ ^ # ... $---0- =",
"= ... $-f>a- =",
"= ^ g ^ ^ ... $-,,,- =",
"= ... $--+-- =",
"= ^ # ^ ^ ... $$$.$$ =",
"=$ ........ =",
"=$ ... =",
"o.............. t t t t=",
"o.............. $ $ $ $=",
"o.............. t t t t=",
"=$ =",
"=$ =",
"= ^ # # ^ M M M =",
"= =",
"= =",
"= ^ ^ ^ M ^ M M =",
"=t =",
"========================"
],`
“terrain”: {
" “: [“t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_grass”, “t\_dirt”],
”#": “t\_dirtmound”,
“g”: “t\_grave\_head”
"^": “t\_grave\_stone”,
“M”: “t\_grave\_monument”,
“t”: “t\_tree”,
"$": “t\_shrub”,
"=": “t\_rock\_wall\_half”,
“o”: “t\_fencegate\_o”
"-": “t\_wall”,
",": “t\_floor”
"+": “t\_door\_locked”,
“0”: “t\_window\_domestic”,
".": “t\_dirt”
```
},
```
[/spoiler][/quote]
I like it, but I agree that it’s on the small size. It works as a rural cemetary, but an average cemetery would be about the size of the mansions, IMO.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13326 "2016-02-03T17:04:18Z")
Yeah. But that’s more a consequence of a single overmap tile only giving you so much space to work with. XP
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### Author:  [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13327 "2016-02-03T17:06:10Z")
I would want a large one. But I mean theres 4 or 5 of them in my small city where I live, and they would all be represented by 2x2 or a single map tile.
I want a bigger one for out of the cities. And as a baseboard for fantasy scenerios that deal with wizards, liches, and of course thrillers.
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### Author:  [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13328 "2016-02-03T17:52:09Z")
How do you ensure that multi-overmap tile structure spawn together, in their correct locations, and in the city/in the woods/etc?
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### Author:  [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13329 "2016-02-03T18:54:43Z")
> [@pisskop](#):
>
> How do you ensure that multi-overmap tile structure spawn together, in their correct locations, and in the city/in the woods/etc?
You need to create a multitile structure in overmap\_specials.json. For example, LMOE shelter is one (it has 2 tiles: upper and lower).
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### Author:  [@FrankyPlaysGames](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FrankyPlaysGames)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13330 "2016-02-03T20:11:42Z")
[quote=“pisskop, post:13327, topic:42”]I would want a large one. But I mean theres 4 or 5 of them in my small city where I live, and they would all be represented by 2x2 or a single map tile.
I want a bigger one for out of the cities. And as a baseboard for fantasy scenerios that deal with wizards, liches, and of course thrillers.[/quote]
Looks great either way, can’t wait to see more of what you can do!
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### Author:  [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13331 "2016-02-03T21:57:35Z")
Is there any reason to worry about ear protection for firing guns? Or is it just that temporary deafness?
I also mutated a snout, and wholly cows, stamina comes back so mauch faster without a filter mask on. I have this cowl thing on and its actually fairly awesome as long as smokers dont happen.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13332 "2016-02-03T21:59:00Z")
[quote=“pisskop, post:13331, topic:42”]Is there any reason to worry about ear protection for firing guns? Or is it just that temporary deafness?
I also mutated a snout, and wholly cows, stamina comes back so mauch faster without a filter mask on. I have this cowl thing on and its actually fairly awesome as long as smokers dont happen.[/quote]
Be very lucky that deafness isn’t permanent. o3o
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### Author:  [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13333 "2016-02-03T22:01:28Z")
Meh, Poor hearing is a standard trait of mine to take. If it wasnt for sleeping or suprise looters/zombies deafness would mean no more annoying sound-related cancellation queues.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13334 "2016-02-03T22:02:02Z")
Ah, but your loss when a shoggoth sneaks up on you.
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### Author:  [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13335 "2016-02-03T22:18:51Z")
Indeed.
Is it a bug that I found Laser weaponry and ‘finale’ level loot, skitterbots, and copious amounts of casings on the B1 level of an ice lab?
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13336 "2016-02-03T22:46:59Z")
That sounds like some delicious luck.
Also…has Stats Through Skills been nerfed? I’ve tranferred Snips over to more recent versions and got a few skills up to 3, and none of them went up.
EDIT: Oh. It looks like it actually looks at TOTAL skill points linked to a given stat. So that, in addition to different threshold levels, is why the logic seems so drunken.
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### Author:  [@Excaliber](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Excaliber)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2016, 1:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13337 "2016-02-04T01:44:41Z")
Speaking of save transferring. I am currently using 0.C-4048 and would like to update to latest. I have read a little about save editing and was wondering if I need to do that or do people delete map files just to start on a fresh map.
Are there any recent changes known to bork older saves? Any advice on carrying forth a badass and beloved character to the newest build repeatably, besides the obvious “backup your saves” would be awesome.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13338 "2016-02-04T01:51:23Z")
Easiest way is to just save your old version and save, then copy-paste the save. If it works, there you go. If it doesn’t work, that’s why you saved the old copy. 3:
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### Author:  [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13339 "2016-02-04T03:03:50Z")
typically you want the files: Config, Save, and templates. Save them, DL the new version then move them into the file and start. There is also the option to DL the unofficial Cataclysm Launcher Which should do all of this with a few clicks. Unless you are a unique case like me it should save you some minuscule amount of time per update.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13340 "2016-02-04T03:13:45Z")
Am I the only one that sets their preferred configs the hard way each update? o3o
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### Author:  [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/13341 "2016-02-04T03:33:13Z")
meh I do apox every other or every third update seems like. Due to accidental deleting or laziness when updating.
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