# Tips, Tricks, and Newb Questions!

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [January 3, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42 "2013-01-03T03:04:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MarkB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/markb/32/152_2.png) [@MarkB](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MarkB)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 9:51am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1281 "2013-08-09T09:51:13Z")

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> [@Rookrune](#):
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> Is there a way to avoid getting shocked by shocker zombies?

Shoot first.

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**Author:** ![Sheb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@Sheb](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sheb)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 11:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1282 "2013-08-09T11:34:39Z")

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Cathedral:

The Small Relic is a quest item.

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**Author:** ![Iosyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/iosyn/32/35_2.png) [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1283 "2013-08-09T20:30:08Z")

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[quote=“Rookrune, post:1278, topic:42”]Is there a way to avoid getting shocked by shocker zombies?

If not, why not ad something like idk… Rubber boots, or something so your not grounded?  
idk shocker zombie bolt just feel like something I can’t even avoid… (hell sometimes it goes though glass windows to zap me)[/quote]

Yeah, dodge the beams and don’t use metal melee weapons. You can beat them to death with a baseball bat with no damage as long as you manage to sidestep all the arcing electricity. Use something like a crowbar and you’ll be electrocuted every time you hit them iirc. Or as MarkB said, shoot first. personally I think rubber gloves and lab coats/raincoats should give you a bit of insulation, but they don’t at the moment.

When is rubber S&M gear in? So I can whack shockers while wearing a gasmask and laughing as they do no damage. 😃

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**Author:** ![Sirquote](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/sirquote/32/887_2.png) [@Sirquote](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sirquote)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1284 "2013-08-09T21:51:26Z")

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> [@Iosyn](#):
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> When is rubber S&M gear in?

![](http://i.imgur.com/VTrMXFT.png)

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**Author:** ![MrHax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4da419/32.png) [@MrHax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MrHax)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 8:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1285 "2013-08-11T08:23:20Z")

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Hi, i have a couple of question to ask the community:

1. What is the best plating as of 0.5 and 0.7.1, respectively?
2. How to stop animals(eg, fucking B(ears)) from entering one’s car?
3. Does disabling NPCs stop the game from crashing?(if not really, please give a percentage of sorts)  
I’m a noob at the game, but i have been playing the game for quite some time, if anyone asks.

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**Author:** ![Mrnocamera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mrnocamera/32/61_2.png) [@Mrnocamera](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mrnocamera)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 9:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1286 "2013-08-11T09:00:56Z")

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> [@MrHax](#):
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> 2. How to stop animals(eg, fucking B(ears)) from entering one’s car?

Add extra windows to places where you could possibly get in through.

Or in other words: Extend the windshield.

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**Author:** ![woflsipder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/woflsipder/32/90_2.png) [@woflsipder](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/woflsipder)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 10:46am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1287 "2013-08-11T10:46:26Z")

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> [@Mrnocamera](#):
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> [quote=“MrHax, post:1285, topic:42”]2. How to stop animals(eg, fucking B(ears)) from entering one’s car?

Add extra windows to places where you could possibly get in through.

Or in other words: Extend the windshield.[/quote]  
Better use doors , because they cannot be destroyed , you can see through them and if needed you can opend them and jump out.

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**Author:** ![MrHax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4da419/32.png) [@MrHax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MrHax)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1288 "2013-08-11T12:35:15Z")

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That’s funny, because last time i was killed by a capital, grey B.  
While sleeping.  
IN A FUCKING SEMI.  
Is this fixed in 0.7? Because that could be considered as bug as : monsters can enter vechile even if it’s fully closed.

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**Author:** ![Zireael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zireael/32/956_2.png) [@Zireael](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zireael)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1289 "2013-08-11T12:58:33Z")

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[quote=“MrHax, post:1288, topic:42”]That’s funny, because last time i was killed by a capital, grey B.  
While sleeping.  
IN A FUCKING SEMI.  
Is this fixed in 0.7? Because that could be considered as bug as : monsters can enter vechile even if it’s fully closed.[/quote]

Monsters could spawn in vehicles and buildings before 0.7. From 0.7 onwards, it’s fixed.

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**Author:** ![Iosyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/iosyn/32/35_2.png) [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 6:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1290 "2013-08-12T18:05:53Z")

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[quote=“MrHax, post:1285, topic:42”]Hi, i have a couple of question to ask the community:

1. What is the best plating as of 0.5 and 0.7.1, respectively?
2. How to stop animals(eg, fucking B(ears)) from entering one’s car?
3. Does disabling NPCs stop the game from crashing?(if not really, please give a percentage of sorts)  
I’m a noob at the game, but i have been playing the game for quite some time, if anyone asks.[/quote]

Yo Hax. You should have more knowledge on the NPC issue if you’ve been playing as of 0.5, but I’d say yes. Frankly I’ve not had that many crashes with or without static NPCs (though they hardly make a difference to gameplay anyway, and I don’t play with roaming NPCs yet) and those that I’ve had crash were generally the older experimental builds although in the recent version (7.1-560) I’ve even had some problems with static NPCs. Looked like the guy spawned with damn near every item in the game, saw a deer and tried alternative attack a few hundred times. Thankfully his head asplode. (whoever put that little piece of code in… +1.)

As for the vehicle plating… Personally my favorite is spiked plating for the extra damage, although for that it sacrifices some durability. Then again, as long as you’re not plowing through buildings it’s good for long while. Can’t remember if the one with the most durability was hard or superalloy though.

Anyway: Question: How much explosives does it take to go through a metal door or a standard (aka not metal) wall? tried using 2 pipebombs one after another on a police armory and it was no use, so would I need to detonate several together as one, or are pipebombs simply not sufficient anyway? I’ve found some C4 but I really want to save that for something special. (there’s a bunker nearby that I’d really prefer breaking open.)  
If I use say, a huge amount of pipebombs one after another would that still do the trick?

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**Author:** ![woflsipder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/woflsipder/32/90_2.png) [@woflsipder](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/woflsipder)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1291 "2013-08-12T18:39:47Z")

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_Explosives expert mode enabled_  
For regular walls you should definitely do with C4 and dynamite. It probably takes few pipe bombs to get regular walls down , so create like 4 or 5 because they sometimes jerk up and not explode.

For metal walls you should place the C4 near the metal doors , because the bunkers have 2 thick metal walls and you probably wouldn’t get throught the second wall.  
I recomend just finding a junk vehicle to ram through everything.

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 10:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1292 "2013-08-12T22:51:20Z")

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> [@woflsipder](#):
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> I recomend just finding a junk vehicle to ram through everything.

But then comes the problem of the seat belt being broken and you flying through the windshield, then the engine going crazy and running you over in the process.  
Its happened to me.

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**Author:** ![HunterAlpha1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1293 "2013-08-12T23:31:17Z")

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how do i make/find superalloy plating?

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1294 "2013-08-12T23:52:13Z")

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> [@HunterAlpha1](#):
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> how do i make/find superalloy plating?

You can sometimes find it in helicopter crash sites, you cant craft it as far as I know

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**Author:** ![Weyrling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7bcc69/32.png) [@Weyrling](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Weyrling)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1295 "2013-08-13T02:38:40Z")

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> [@HunterAlpha1](#):
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> how do i make/find superalloy plating?

There are some bots with superalloy plating, break some police station windows and let the eyebot take some pictures, just make sure you have a decent ranged weapon and some skills first.

Regarding explosives, consecutive demolition works perfectly fine, while C4/dynamite is best for breaking through walls in a single blast, any explosion will damage a wall permanently, so you can even break into a bunker by lighting tiny piles of ammunition on fire a half dozen times in a row.

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**Author:** ![Rookrune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Rookrune](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rookrune)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 10:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1296 "2013-08-15T10:19:27Z")

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Just downloaded the new build, trying to find every new thing.  
Question: How do I plant seeds?, do I need a shovel?

also… what is the stone shovel/axe requirements to build now? I cant find em.  
anything else I should now about that got moved around?

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**Author:** ![Zireael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zireael/32/956_2.png) [@Zireael](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zireael)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 10:45am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1297 "2013-08-15T10:45:34Z")

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[quote=“Rookrune, post:1296, topic:42”]Just downloaded the new build, trying to find every new thing.  
Question: How do I plant seeds?, do I need a shovel?

also… what is the stone shovel/axe requirements to build now? I cant find em.  
anything else I should now about that got moved around?[/quote]

Shovel/axe are bugged currently, there’s a fix pending on GIT.

To plant seeds, you need to use a hoe on ground. You get a dirt mound, which you examine.

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1298 "2013-08-15T14:49:12Z")

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Anyone knows how to fertilize fields with the bonemeal?

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1299 "2013-08-15T18:42:47Z")

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> [@John Candlebury](#):
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> Anyone knows how to fertilize fields with the bonemeal?

You can’t yet, that particular PR still hasn’t been merged.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/1300 "2013-08-15T18:50:53Z")

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What’s with all that sudden overhaul? What’s that new skill-can’t-recall-it’s-name?

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